On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM, alex diavatis <alexis.diava...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Why don't you try an YouTube channel. A weekly 5' show kinda like:
>
> This week in Gnome...[ie new features]
> We cannot support this because .. [ie theming API]
> In Gnome 3.. [discuss/explain some features and how to use desktop]
> In Gnome 3.. [tech news]
>
> It will take only two hours for each person to do this, and you can rotate
> This week, Allan, next week Seif, week after next Sri and so on.
>
> YouTube is by far the most popular media to promote a product, plus you
> will have a more "personal"
> connection with people.
>

Oops that was going to previous thread [reddit IAMA GNOME
developer/designer] sooorry :)
- alex

>
> - alex
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Seif Lotfy <s...@lotfy.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>> First I love the idea of a community team. KDE already has such a team
>> with a good mission (http://ev.kde.org/workinggroups/cwg.php).I think
>> studying their history and experience would be beneficial to the community
>> team.
>>
>> After discussing this Lydia from KDE, it looks more like a "Public
>> Relations" team more than a "Community Management" team. Both do have some
>> common tasks. I think a Community team should encompass a PR team.
>>
>> Agreed. We have a problem communicating our vision internally and
>> externally.
>> Internally it seems like not all of us are on the same page, e.g:
>> "theming will damage our brand". Or systemd dependencies etc. Do all "high
>> profile" GNOME contributors agree on this?
>>
>> Before communicating to the outside world that "XYZ" is a fact we need to
>> at least agree on it internally. Taking the liberties with ones own modules
>> without general consensus inside the community leads to friction and
>> arguments. This is something that a community team should work on, make
>> people inside the community get along, reduce friction.
>>
>> As a community team another mission would be working on communication
>> between devs, on mailing lists and bugs. Damage caused by snarky, arrogant
>> or dismissive remarks should be controlled and positive communication
>> efforts have to promoted and praised.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents
>> Cheers
>> Seif
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Dave Neary <dne...@gnome.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/13/2012 06:53 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a project, we are having trouble communicating our vision because
>>>> everything gets lost in a sea of vitriol due to past actions or
>>>> perceived actions.  For instance, removing fallback is seen as yet again
>>>> the GNOME project is removing a feature instead of an act of maintenance
>>>> and sustainability.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our vision,
>>> because as a project we are not sure what it is. There is a part of the
>>> project that has a very clear idea of their vision, but that vision has
>>> either not been clearly expressed, or what has been expressed has not got
>>> clear support from the community of contributors in the project. For
>>> instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that
>>> Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for the GNOME
>>> project, and has not got grass roots support among the GNOME community (and
>>> I'm not talking about users here, I'm talking about contributors -
>>> developers, translators, user group co-ordinators, and marketers).
>>
>>
>>>  After all, GNOME design doesn't have any authority but is able to
>>>> convince maintainers that doing their approach is best for their
>>>> application.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree with your analogy.
>>
>>
>>>  I'm envisioning a team of 10 volunteers.  10 volunteers who start out as
>>>> community managers and then hopefully will be interested in doing other
>>>> things within the project.
>>>>
>>>> I currently have four as of right now.  Need to recruit six more!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like a plan, and we certainly need to do something to stop the
>>> rot.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave.
>>>
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