On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM, alex diavatis <alexis.diava...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hello, > > Why don't you try an YouTube channel. A weekly 5' show kinda like: > > This week in Gnome...[ie new features] > We cannot support this because .. [ie theming API] > In Gnome 3.. [discuss/explain some features and how to use desktop] > In Gnome 3.. [tech news] > > It will take only two hours for each person to do this, and you can rotate > This week, Allan, next week Seif, week after next Sri and so on. > > YouTube is by far the most popular media to promote a product, plus you > will have a more "personal" > connection with people. > Oops that was going to previous thread [reddit IAMA GNOME developer/designer] sooorry :) - alex > > - alex > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Seif Lotfy <s...@lotfy.com> wrote: > >> >> Hello, >> First I love the idea of a community team. KDE already has such a team >> with a good mission (http://ev.kde.org/workinggroups/cwg.php).I think >> studying their history and experience would be beneficial to the community >> team. >> >> After discussing this Lydia from KDE, it looks more like a "Public >> Relations" team more than a "Community Management" team. Both do have some >> common tasks. I think a Community team should encompass a PR team. >> >> Agreed. We have a problem communicating our vision internally and >> externally. >> Internally it seems like not all of us are on the same page, e.g: >> "theming will damage our brand". Or systemd dependencies etc. Do all "high >> profile" GNOME contributors agree on this? >> >> Before communicating to the outside world that "XYZ" is a fact we need to >> at least agree on it internally. Taking the liberties with ones own modules >> without general consensus inside the community leads to friction and >> arguments. This is something that a community team should work on, make >> people inside the community get along, reduce friction. >> >> As a community team another mission would be working on communication >> between devs, on mailing lists and bugs. Damage caused by snarky, arrogant >> or dismissive remarks should be controlled and positive communication >> efforts have to promoted and praised. >> >> Just my 2 cents >> Cheers >> Seif >> >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Dave Neary <dne...@gnome.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> On 11/13/2012 06:53 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: >>> >>>> As a project, we are having trouble communicating our vision because >>>> everything gets lost in a sea of vitriol due to past actions or >>>> perceived actions. For instance, removing fallback is seen as yet again >>>> the GNOME project is removing a feature instead of an act of maintenance >>>> and sustainability. >>>> >>> >>> I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our vision, >>> because as a project we are not sure what it is. There is a part of the >>> project that has a very clear idea of their vision, but that vision has >>> either not been clearly expressed, or what has been expressed has not got >>> clear support from the community of contributors in the project. For >>> instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that >>> Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for the GNOME >>> project, and has not got grass roots support among the GNOME community (and >>> I'm not talking about users here, I'm talking about contributors - >>> developers, translators, user group co-ordinators, and marketers). >> >> >>> After all, GNOME design doesn't have any authority but is able to >>>> convince maintainers that doing their approach is best for their >>>> application. >>>> >>> >>> I disagree with your analogy. >> >> >>> I'm envisioning a team of 10 volunteers. 10 volunteers who start out as >>>> community managers and then hopefully will be interested in doing other >>>> things within the project. >>>> >>>> I currently have four as of right now. Need to recruit six more! >>>> >>> >>> Sounds like a plan, and we certainly need to do something to stop the >>> rot. >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Dave. >>> >>> -- >>> Dave Neary, Lyon, France >>> Email: dne...@gnome.org >>> Jabber: nea...@gmail.com >>> -- >>> marketing-list mailing list >>> marketing-list@gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**list<https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list> >>> >> >> >> -- >> marketing-list mailing list >> marketing-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >> >> >
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