On Wed, November 14, 2012 7:58 am, alex diavatis wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM, alex diavatis > <alexis.diava...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Why don't you try an YouTube channel. A weekly 5' show kinda like:
I love the idea of maybe doing a weekly audio recording of this week in GNOME. I could potentially do this as an interview with a different key person each week, if it's not too long. Perhaps a half hour each time? I'm wary of video as I think that will take a lot of work... Do others think this is a good idea? Alex, would you want to help with it? karen >> This week in Gnome...[ie new features] >> We cannot support this because .. [ie theming API] >> In Gnome 3.. [discuss/explain some features and how to use desktop] >> In Gnome 3.. [tech news] >> >> It will take only two hours for each person to do this, and you can >> rotate >> This week, Allan, next week Seif, week after next Sri and so on. >> >> YouTube is by far the most popular media to promote a product, plus you >> will have a more "personal" >> connection with people. >> > > Oops that was going to previous thread [reddit IAMA GNOME > developer/designer] sooorry :) > - alex > >> >> - alex >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Seif Lotfy <s...@lotfy.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello, >>> First I love the idea of a community team. KDE already has such a team >>> with a good mission (http://ev.kde.org/workinggroups/cwg.php).I think >>> studying their history and experience would be beneficial to the >>> community >>> team. >>> >>> After discussing this Lydia from KDE, it looks more like a "Public >>> Relations" team more than a "Community Management" team. Both do have >>> some >>> common tasks. I think a Community team should encompass a PR team. >>> >>> Agreed. We have a problem communicating our vision internally and >>> externally. >>> Internally it seems like not all of us are on the same page, e.g: >>> "theming will damage our brand". Or systemd dependencies etc. Do all >>> "high >>> profile" GNOME contributors agree on this? >>> >>> Before communicating to the outside world that "XYZ" is a fact we need >>> to >>> at least agree on it internally. Taking the liberties with ones own >>> modules >>> without general consensus inside the community leads to friction and >>> arguments. This is something that a community team should work on, make >>> people inside the community get along, reduce friction. >>> >>> As a community team another mission would be working on communication >>> between devs, on mailing lists and bugs. Damage caused by snarky, >>> arrogant >>> or dismissive remarks should be controlled and positive communication >>> efforts have to promoted and praised. >>> >>> Just my 2 cents >>> Cheers >>> Seif >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Dave Neary <dne...@gnome.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/13/2012 06:53 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: >>>> >>>>> As a project, we are having trouble communicating our vision because >>>>> everything gets lost in a sea of vitriol due to past actions or >>>>> perceived actions. For instance, removing fallback is seen as yet >>>>> again >>>>> the GNOME project is removing a feature instead of an act of >>>>> maintenance >>>>> and sustainability. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our >>>> vision, >>>> because as a project we are not sure what it is. There is a part of >>>> the >>>> project that has a very clear idea of their vision, but that vision >>>> has >>>> either not been clearly expressed, or what has been expressed has not >>>> got >>>> clear support from the community of contributors in the project. For >>>> instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that >>>> Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for the GNOME >>>> project, and has not got grass roots support among the GNOME community >>>> (and >>>> I'm not talking about users here, I'm talking about contributors - >>>> developers, translators, user group co-ordinators, and marketers). >>> >>> >>>> After all, GNOME design doesn't have any authority but is able to >>>>> convince maintainers that doing their approach is best for their >>>>> application. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I disagree with your analogy. >>> >>> >>>> I'm envisioning a team of 10 volunteers. 10 volunteers who start out >>>> as >>>>> community managers and then hopefully will be interested in doing >>>>> other >>>>> things within the project. >>>>> >>>>> I currently have four as of right now. Need to recruit six more! >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sounds like a plan, and we certainly need to do something to stop the >>>> rot. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Dave. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dave Neary, Lyon, France >>>> Email: dne...@gnome.org >>>> Jabber: nea...@gmail.com >>>> -- >>>> marketing-list mailing list >>>> marketing-list@gnome.org >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**list<https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> marketing-list mailing list >>> marketing-list@gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >>> >>> >> > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list