On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Karen Sandler <ka...@gnome.org> wrote:
> On Wed, November 14, 2012 7:58 am, alex diavatis wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM, alex diavatis > > <alexis.diava...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> Why don't you try an YouTube channel. A weekly 5' show kinda like: > > I love the idea of maybe doing a weekly audio recording of this week in > GNOME. I could potentially do this as an interview with a different key > person each week, if it's not too long. Perhaps a half hour each time? I'm > wary of video as I think that will take a lot of work... > > slightly off topic: The youtube channel idea seemed pretty good but it was hard to manage. Mostly because I had a hard time figuring out how to tag posts for GNOME. Maybe I'm missing something there. Design guys are always throwing up video on their thoughts. A missing opportunity IMHO. > Do others think this is a good idea? Alex, would you want to help with it? > > It depends. I would set it up almost like an RSS feed postcast. That would make it more automatic and something people can subscribe to. sri > karen > > > >> This week in Gnome...[ie new features] > >> We cannot support this because .. [ie theming API] > >> In Gnome 3.. [discuss/explain some features and how to use desktop] > >> In Gnome 3.. [tech news] > >> > >> It will take only two hours for each person to do this, and you can > >> rotate > >> This week, Allan, next week Seif, week after next Sri and so on. > >> > >> YouTube is by far the most popular media to promote a product, plus you > >> will have a more "personal" > >> connection with people. > >> > > > > Oops that was going to previous thread [reddit IAMA GNOME > > developer/designer] sooorry :) > > - alex > > > >> > >> - alex > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Seif Lotfy <s...@lotfy.com> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hello, > >>> First I love the idea of a community team. KDE already has such a team > >>> with a good mission (http://ev.kde.org/workinggroups/cwg.php).I think > >>> studying their history and experience would be beneficial to the > >>> community > >>> team. > >>> > >>> After discussing this Lydia from KDE, it looks more like a "Public > >>> Relations" team more than a "Community Management" team. Both do have > >>> some > >>> common tasks. I think a Community team should encompass a PR team. > >>> > >>> Agreed. We have a problem communicating our vision internally and > >>> externally. > >>> Internally it seems like not all of us are on the same page, e.g: > >>> "theming will damage our brand". Or systemd dependencies etc. Do all > >>> "high > >>> profile" GNOME contributors agree on this? > >>> > >>> Before communicating to the outside world that "XYZ" is a fact we need > >>> to > >>> at least agree on it internally. Taking the liberties with ones own > >>> modules > >>> without general consensus inside the community leads to friction and > >>> arguments. This is something that a community team should work on, make > >>> people inside the community get along, reduce friction. > >>> > >>> As a community team another mission would be working on communication > >>> between devs, on mailing lists and bugs. Damage caused by snarky, > >>> arrogant > >>> or dismissive remarks should be controlled and positive communication > >>> efforts have to promoted and praised. > >>> > >>> Just my 2 cents > >>> Cheers > >>> Seif > >>> > >>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Dave Neary <dne...@gnome.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 11/13/2012 06:53 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> As a project, we are having trouble communicating our vision because > >>>>> everything gets lost in a sea of vitriol due to past actions or > >>>>> perceived actions. For instance, removing fallback is seen as yet > >>>>> again > >>>>> the GNOME project is removing a feature instead of an act of > >>>>> maintenance > >>>>> and sustainability. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our > >>>> vision, > >>>> because as a project we are not sure what it is. There is a part of > >>>> the > >>>> project that has a very clear idea of their vision, but that vision > >>>> has > >>>> either not been clearly expressed, or what has been expressed has not > >>>> got > >>>> clear support from the community of contributors in the project. For > >>>> instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that > >>>> Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for the GNOME > >>>> project, and has not got grass roots support among the GNOME community > >>>> (and > >>>> I'm not talking about users here, I'm talking about contributors - > >>>> developers, translators, user group co-ordinators, and marketers). > >>> > >>> > >>>> After all, GNOME design doesn't have any authority but is able to > >>>>> convince maintainers that doing their approach is best for their > >>>>> application. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I disagree with your analogy. > >>> > >>> > >>>> I'm envisioning a team of 10 volunteers. 10 volunteers who start out > >>>> as > >>>>> community managers and then hopefully will be interested in doing > >>>>> other > >>>>> things within the project. > >>>>> > >>>>> I currently have four as of right now. Need to recruit six more! > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sounds like a plan, and we certainly need to do something to stop the > >>>> rot. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Dave. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Dave Neary, Lyon, France > >>>> Email: dne...@gnome.org > >>>> Jabber: nea...@gmail.com > >>>> -- > >>>> marketing-list mailing list > >>>> marketing-list@gnome.org > >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**list< > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> marketing-list mailing list > >>> marketing-list@gnome.org > >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > >>> > >>> > >> > > -- > > marketing-list mailing list > > marketing-list@gnome.org > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > > > > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >
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