Maybe it would be simpler to just do a Google+ Hangout? --lucasr
On 15 November 2012 06:34, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Karen Sandler <ka...@gnome.org> wrote: >> >> On Wed, November 14, 2012 7:58 am, alex diavatis wrote: >> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM, alex diavatis >> > <alexis.diava...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> Why don't you try an YouTube channel. A weekly 5' show kinda like: >> >> I love the idea of maybe doing a weekly audio recording of this week in >> GNOME. I could potentially do this as an interview with a different key >> person each week, if it's not too long. Perhaps a half hour each time? I'm >> wary of video as I think that will take a lot of work... >> > > slightly off topic: > The youtube channel idea seemed pretty good but it was hard to manage. > Mostly because I had a hard time figuring out how to tag posts for GNOME. > Maybe I'm missing something there. Design guys are always throwing up video > on their thoughts. A missing opportunity IMHO. > >> >> Do others think this is a good idea? Alex, would you want to help with it? >> > > It depends. I would set it up almost like an RSS feed postcast. That would > make it more automatic and something people can subscribe to. > > sri > >> >> karen >> >> >> >> This week in Gnome...[ie new features] >> >> We cannot support this because .. [ie theming API] >> >> In Gnome 3.. [discuss/explain some features and how to use desktop] >> >> In Gnome 3.. [tech news] >> >> >> >> It will take only two hours for each person to do this, and you can >> >> rotate >> >> This week, Allan, next week Seif, week after next Sri and so on. >> >> >> >> YouTube is by far the most popular media to promote a product, plus you >> >> will have a more "personal" >> >> connection with people. >> >> >> > >> > Oops that was going to previous thread [reddit IAMA GNOME >> > developer/designer] sooorry :) >> > - alex >> > >> >> >> >> - alex >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Seif Lotfy <s...@lotfy.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Hello, >> >>> First I love the idea of a community team. KDE already has such a team >> >>> with a good mission (http://ev.kde.org/workinggroups/cwg.php).I think >> >>> studying their history and experience would be beneficial to the >> >>> community >> >>> team. >> >>> >> >>> After discussing this Lydia from KDE, it looks more like a "Public >> >>> Relations" team more than a "Community Management" team. Both do have >> >>> some >> >>> common tasks. I think a Community team should encompass a PR team. >> >>> >> >>> Agreed. We have a problem communicating our vision internally and >> >>> externally. >> >>> Internally it seems like not all of us are on the same page, e.g: >> >>> "theming will damage our brand". Or systemd dependencies etc. Do all >> >>> "high >> >>> profile" GNOME contributors agree on this? >> >>> >> >>> Before communicating to the outside world that "XYZ" is a fact we need >> >>> to >> >>> at least agree on it internally. Taking the liberties with ones own >> >>> modules >> >>> without general consensus inside the community leads to friction and >> >>> arguments. This is something that a community team should work on, >> >>> make >> >>> people inside the community get along, reduce friction. >> >>> >> >>> As a community team another mission would be working on communication >> >>> between devs, on mailing lists and bugs. Damage caused by snarky, >> >>> arrogant >> >>> or dismissive remarks should be controlled and positive communication >> >>> efforts have to promoted and praised. >> >>> >> >>> Just my 2 cents >> >>> Cheers >> >>> Seif >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Dave Neary <dne...@gnome.org> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Hi, >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 11/13/2012 06:53 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> As a project, we are having trouble communicating our vision because >> >>>>> everything gets lost in a sea of vitriol due to past actions or >> >>>>> perceived actions. For instance, removing fallback is seen as yet >> >>>>> again >> >>>>> the GNOME project is removing a feature instead of an act of >> >>>>> maintenance >> >>>>> and sustainability. >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our >> >>>> vision, >> >>>> because as a project we are not sure what it is. There is a part of >> >>>> the >> >>>> project that has a very clear idea of their vision, but that vision >> >>>> has >> >>>> either not been clearly expressed, or what has been expressed has not >> >>>> got >> >>>> clear support from the community of contributors in the project. For >> >>>> instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that >> >>>> Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for the >> >>>> GNOME >> >>>> project, and has not got grass roots support among the GNOME >> >>>> community >> >>>> (and >> >>>> I'm not talking about users here, I'm talking about contributors - >> >>>> developers, translators, user group co-ordinators, and marketers). >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> After all, GNOME design doesn't have any authority but is able to >> >>>>> convince maintainers that doing their approach is best for their >> >>>>> application. >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> I disagree with your analogy. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> I'm envisioning a team of 10 volunteers. 10 volunteers who start >> >>>> out >> >>>> as >> >>>>> community managers and then hopefully will be interested in doing >> >>>>> other >> >>>>> things within the project. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I currently have four as of right now. Need to recruit six more! >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Sounds like a plan, and we certainly need to do something to stop the >> >>>> rot. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> Dave. >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Dave Neary, Lyon, France >> >>>> Email: dne...@gnome.org >> >>>> Jabber: nea...@gmail.com >> >>>> -- >> >>>> marketing-list mailing list >> >>>> marketing-list@gnome.org >> >>>> >> >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**list<https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> marketing-list mailing list >> >>> marketing-list@gnome.org >> >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > -- >> > marketing-list mailing list >> > marketing-list@gnome.org >> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >> > >> >> >> -- >> marketing-list mailing list >> marketing-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > > > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list