Makes sense. I'll look this up in parallel but do other ASF projects have a "marketing" list or is this unique to CloudStack? I do know Hadoop has commercial interesting/packagers including Cloudera, HortonWorks & IBM. Do they share on a marketing list or just have individual budgets to promote Hadoop. Then again, perhaps Hadoop is an exception & doesn't need promotion :)
On 6/12/13 7:21 AM, "Chip Childers" <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: >On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:13 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, (note only marketing@) >> >> Apologies for a belated wrap up of this important vote. Please reply >>in-line. >> >> [RESULTS]: >> >> +1 : 24 (Sebastien, Giles, Nguyen, Ryan, Kelly, Geoff, Roland, Alex, >>Nehal, Sapm4kev, Gaspare, Kelcey, José,OutbackDingo, Todd, Eric, David, >>Kimihiko, Radhika, Clayton, Chip, Chiradeep, Tariq, Mark) >> >> >> -0 : 2 (Noah, Joe also vote +0) >> >> -1: 2 (Rohit, Ilya) >> >> [SUMMARY]: >> >> Rohit would be +1 on listing in the wiki, Ilya would be +0 on listing >>in the wiki. >> So it seems that we would have unanimous consensus for listing on the >>wiki, even though there is a strong majority for the website. >> >> [DISCUSS]: >> >> I felt it was important to poll folks that are only on dev@ or users@ >>and the results show that some folks who have never voted, got engaged >>in this VOTE. This is a very positive side effect despite the confusion >>that I created by bcc all lists. >> >> Our bylaws [1] do not cover votes on non-technical matters, so while we >>have lazy majority on this vote it seems that this situation is not >>covered by the bylaws. Moreover section 3.1.1 of bylaws says that >>decisions on the project happen on dev@, so it seems that votes even on >>marketing@ are not allowed (unsure about this). >> >> I propose the following: >> >> 1-To move forward without having to re-cast a vote, I propose to list >>immediately the books on the Wiki, and inform Packt. I just created the >>page [2] >> 2- If people agree that we have a bylaw "loophole", we need to modify >>the bylaws to allow votes on marketing@ and agree on using Lazy majority >>or Lazy 2/3 majority. >> >> Once we agree, I will inform users@ and dev@ and invite folks who >>participated in this vote to join marketing@ >> >> 3- We could then re-cast a vote to list on the website >> >> [1] http://cloudstack.apache.org/bylaws.html >> [2] >>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Books >> >> Ps: fwiw, I think this is overly complicated but the only way forward >>in the apache way. >> >> -Sebastien > >+1, and we could get the wiki page up today, right? ;) > >I just got a follow up query from packt about what were doing with it. > >The steps above make a ton of sense to me Sebastien.
