Great to see this moving forward, thanks Sebastien. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sebastien Goasguen" <run...@gmail.com> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org, "Ilya Musayev" <imusa...@webmd.net>, "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@citrix.com>, "Noah Slater" <nsla...@apache.org>, "Joe Brockmeier" <joe.brockme...@citrix.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:52:31 AM Subject: Re: [RESULTS][SUMMARY][DISCUSS][VOTE] List CloudStack related books on the website
Ilya, Rohit, Joe, Noah, I am re-sending this with you in CC to make sure you read it. Since there was little response the wiki link has been established already, but I would like to get feedback on explicitly modifying the bylaws to explain that marketing topics happen on the marketing list and that Lazy majority or Lazy 2/3 majority will be required. -sebastien On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, (note only marketing@) > > Apologies for a belated wrap up of this important vote. Please reply in-line. > > [RESULTS]: > > +1 : 24 (Sebastien, Giles, Nguyen, Ryan, Kelly, Geoff, Roland, Alex, Nehal, > Sapm4kev, Gaspare, Kelcey, José,OutbackDingo, Todd, Eric, David, Kimihiko, > Radhika, Clayton, Chip, Chiradeep, Tariq, Mark) > > > -0 : 2 (Noah, Joe also vote +0) > > -1: 2 (Rohit, Ilya) > > [SUMMARY]: > > Rohit would be +1 on listing in the wiki, Ilya would be +0 on listing in the > wiki. > So it seems that we would have unanimous consensus for listing on the wiki, > even though there is a strong majority for the website. > > [DISCUSS]: > > I felt it was important to poll folks that are only on dev@ or users@ and the > results show that some folks who have never voted, got engaged in this VOTE. > This is a very positive side effect despite the confusion that I created by > bcc all lists. > > Our bylaws [1] do not cover votes on non-technical matters, so while we have > lazy majority on this vote it seems that this situation is not covered by the > bylaws. Moreover section 3.1.1 of bylaws says that decisions on the project > happen on dev@, so it seems that votes even on marketing@ are not allowed > (unsure about this). > > I propose the following: > > 1-To move forward without having to re-cast a vote, I propose to list > immediately the books on the Wiki, and inform Packt. I just created the page > [2] > 2- If people agree that we have a bylaw "loophole", we need to modify the > bylaws to allow votes on marketing@ and agree on using Lazy majority or Lazy > 2/3 majority. > > Once we agree, I will inform users@ and dev@ and invite folks who > participated in this vote to join marketing@ > > 3- We could then re-cast a vote to list on the website > > [1] http://cloudstack.apache.org/bylaws.html > [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Books > > Ps: fwiw, I think this is overly complicated but the only way forward in the > apache way. > > -Sebastien
