On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering
You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a directory...so I was hoping that you would just say "yes" or "no - use [this one]" when I asked you: > > Ah - so perhaps this: > > > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png > > > > ...is the logo you want, not the one I mentioned in my email: > > > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png [Hoped for:] > YES - use #5 [or] > NO - use #4 But the reason I'm dragging this out even further is I got: > About the logo, it's the "blueberriest" one we will want, variant 4 Aha so it's 4...but no, wait: > the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry > launch, variant 6: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners ...so it's...6?! So do you want 4 (like you said first above) or 6 (like you said second above) or 5 (like you said earlier since you want it to be one of the ones from the beauty shot that clearly doesn't have 4 or 6)? > No, there wasn't "marketing decided", it was Tomeu who thought of > flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit > since "natural" wholesome sugars, a "fun treat for kids"), and > sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting. Tomeu suggested exactly what he suggested, which was clearly NOT flavours: "Cherry-Oak" is not a flavour. You and Eben were talking about colours explicitly and nobody said _anything_ about flavours: >>> [SeanDaly] >> [Eben] > [Tomeu] >>> Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo >>> color too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask "what >>> color is the Sugar logo?" and match that to the version number. >> >> I actually think changing the colors with each release is a pretty >> awesome idea. > > So awesome that it may solve the controversial issue of naming > releases: Banana-Chocolate Sugar, Cherry-Oak Sugar, etc When I say "marketing decided ice cream", I mean: 1) marketing came up with the idea: [11:16:41] <SeanDaly> So, why not name SoaS versions as flavors, based on the boot logo color? [...] [11:18:38] <SeanDaly> caroline: I think the ice cream metaphor can really serve us 2) marketing championed it [12:30:02] <SeanDaly> sdziallas: OK for SoaS v1 with a flavor name? [...] [12:30:44] <SeanDaly> I rather like strawberry as a first one, but i don't think we have a logo that color 3) marketing called the vote: [12:34:07] <SeanDaly> Can we go with logo 06 "Strawberry" for this release? [12:34:26] <SeanDaly> we can disagree all summer over the next one (joke) [...] [12:35:54] <mtd> strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:24] <caroline> strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:49] <sdziallas> strawberry +1 from me, too ;) 4) and marketing corrected me about the etymology :) It's certainly not worth the ink I've made you spill on it but it is nice to be able to say where the buck stopped with a given decision. If you don't want it pinned on you, ok :). > The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked > on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the > development process. Sure, that's why we're having this discussion, right? > But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond > the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months, > not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest > and most fun one. Ok, I'm convinced. > [marketing tips] > Is this clear I hope? That marketing lesson was very clear and interesting - you should teach a course! > thanks > > Sean Martin
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