Great discussion. I'd love to be able to have a name for the next release because I need to talk about it a great deal these days. I say "Should we base our spin on Strawberry or the "next release"." I talk about: Should we try to combine Strawberry codebase and the new tool bar design?.
Can I start calling it Blueberry? Is the new toolbar design the Blueberry style toolbar? Thanks, Caroline On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <to...@sugarlabs.org> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:33, Martin Dengler<mar...@martindengler.com> > wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > >> I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering > > > > You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard > > to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a > > directory...so I was hoping that you would just say "yes" or "no - use > > [this one]" when I asked you: > > > >> > Ah - so perhaps this: > >> > > >> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png > >> > > >> > ...is the logo you want, not the one I mentioned in my email: > >> > > >> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png > > > > [Hoped for:] > >> YES - use #5 > > [or] > >> NO - use #4 > > > > But the reason I'm dragging this out even further is I got: > > > >> About the logo, it's the "blueberriest" one we will want, variant 4 > > > > Aha so it's 4...but no, wait: > > > >> the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry > >> launch, variant 6: > >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners > > > > ...so it's...6?! > > > > So do you want 4 (like you said first above) or 6 (like you said > > second above) or 5 (like you said earlier since you want it to be one > > of the ones from the beauty shot that clearly doesn't have 4 or 6)? > > > > > >> No, there wasn't "marketing decided", it was Tomeu who thought of > >> flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit > >> since "natural" wholesome sugars, a "fun treat for kids"), and > >> sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting. > > > > Tomeu suggested exactly what he suggested, which was clearly NOT > > flavours: "Cherry-Oak" is not a flavour. You and Eben were talking > > about colours explicitly and nobody said _anything_ about flavours: > > I think it's most appropriate to say that this idea was developed > collectively. I don't remember what I said nor why, but I think I was > expressing support for someone else's earlier idea. > > I think most or all specific suggestions in this thread will work well > and I don't think it's much worth discussing which one will be best. > > If someone really cares, we could define a process to decide names > such as Fedora's, though I really hope we find better names than them, > which I personally dislike even more than Ubuntu's. > > Regards, > > Tomeu > > >>>> [SeanDaly] > >>> [Eben] > >> [Tomeu] > >>>> Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo > >>>> color too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask "what > >>>> color is the Sugar logo?" and match that to the version number. > >>> > >>> I actually think changing the colors with each release is a pretty > >>> awesome idea. > >> > >> So awesome that it may solve the controversial issue of naming > >> releases: Banana-Chocolate Sugar, Cherry-Oak Sugar, etc > > > > When I say "marketing decided ice cream", I mean: > > > > 1) marketing came up with the idea: > > > > [11:16:41] <SeanDaly> So, why not name SoaS versions as flavors, based > > on the boot logo color? > > [...] > > [11:18:38] <SeanDaly> caroline: I think the ice cream metaphor can > > really serve us > > > > 2) marketing championed it > > > > [12:30:02] <SeanDaly> sdziallas: OK for SoaS v1 with a flavor name? > > [...] > > [12:30:44] <SeanDaly> I rather like strawberry as a first one, but i > > don't think we have a logo that color > > > > 3) marketing called the vote: > > > > [12:34:07] <SeanDaly> Can we go with logo 06 "Strawberry" for this > > release? > > [12:34:26] <SeanDaly> we can disagree all summer over the next one > > (joke) > > [...] > > [12:35:54] <mtd> strawberry +1 > > [...] > > [12:36:24] <caroline> strawberry +1 > > [...] > > [12:36:49] <sdziallas> strawberry +1 from me, too ;) > > > > 4) and marketing corrected me about the etymology :) > > > > It's certainly not worth the ink I've made you spill on it but it is > > nice to be able to say where the buck stopped with a given decision. > > If you don't want it pinned on you, ok :). > > > > > >> The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked > >> on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the > >> development process. > > > > Sure, that's why we're having this discussion, right? > > > >> But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond > >> the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months, > >> not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest > >> and most fun one. > > > > Ok, I'm convinced. > > > > > >> [marketing tips] > >> Is this clear I hope? > > > > That marketing lesson was very clear and interesting - you should > > teach a course! > > > >> thanks > >> > >> Sean > > > > Martin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > i...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > > -- > «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. > What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David > Farning > _______________________________________________ > Marketing mailing list > Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing > -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax
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