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Dear David, I will crawl back to my cave. Can`t beat your logic. 2011/3/4 dave x <dave...@gmail.com> > ====================================================================== > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > ====================================================================== > > > Nestor: > It is too easy to tell me I slander those you have defined as > "revolutionaries" (without much experience of Lybian issues, I presume), > when I have simply shown that they are, at most, "rebels", with some > unsavory and (for a revolutionary) uncanny elements within. > > Dave: > The Libyans don't have to prove their revolutionary-ness to you or me > or anyone else. They have already proven it to themselves with their > struggle, their courage and their blood. They will prove it to Gadhafi > too before this is done. One is not a revolutionary because you belong > to an organization with the word 'revolutionary' in its name or in its > program. One is a revolutionary because history makes one so, because > history transforms you, however quotidian or even reactionary one was > before. > > Nestor: > Again: I am not as sure as most cdes. on this list that there exists room > for a democratic revolution in Lybia in the "formal" sense of the word that > does not fall prey, of necessity, of imperialist powers. > > What sort of room was there in Russia in February 1917? Indeed what > sort of room was there for a communist revolution in October? Did > Lenin and Trotsky think the revolution could survive on its own? The > Libyan revolution is not occurring in a vacuum but in the midst a > great transnational revolutionary upheaval. That Nestor thinks it > might not succeed is no reason not to support the Libyan revolution. I > mean have you read Marx's Civil War in France? What chances did he > give them? > -dave > > ________________________________________________ > Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu > Set your options at: > http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/nmgoro%40gmail.com > -- Néstor Gorojovsky El texto principal de este correo puede no ser de mi autoría ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com