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On 03/13/2014 07:25 AM, Marv Gandall wrote: > You, Louis, Clay, and others do not take this into account. You approach the > issue as though you do have a dog in this fight - if not in the government > than at the level of the masses. But you're seeing a revolution or a > revolutionary process where one does not presently exist. Unless that > improbably changes, your enthusiasm to engage in polemics with those who have > a more skeptical view of what is transpiring in Ukraine is entirely without > foundation. You may be interested in kibitzing. I am interested in what develops the revolutionary consciousness of the masses and how that can be enhanced. To that I offer this: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116960/letter-donetsk-not-pro-russia-its-menaced-russian-tourists > This is a letter from Donetsk, in southeastern Ukraine, which you have > probably been told is the pro-Russian part of the country. > > My name is Irina, and I speak Russian, just like most people here. I > am a philologist by profession; I graduated from a local university. I > have worked as a schoolteacher with small kids. Right now I work in > IT. I never joined the protests at the Maidan and I don't support any > existing political party. I'm passionately interested in languages, > movies, dresses, shoes and makeup. I cannot say that I am ordinarily a > very political person. Before our Ukrainian revolution started, I was > devoting my energies to learning how to blend eyeshadow. I'd love to > brush up on my Spanish and start learning Italian. In summer my > boyfriend and I were thinking of traveling somewhere nice. > > Donetsk, where I live, was the political base of Viktor Yanukovych, > the former president of my country. Donetsk gave (political) life to > Yanukovych. Donetsk will (politically) smash him. This opinion has > been common in Kiev since the beginning of the Ukrainian revolution. > Today it has become a reality. There are zero Yanukovych supporters in > Donetsk these days. People are angry because they have been massively > fooled by him and his regime. > > People are also mildly confused, which is a good sign, because it > means that they are thinking. I believe that people here in Donetsk > are about to restart their value system and recharge their senses. > This process needs time. Because taking responsibility for your > freedom means doing something—learning, working (often for yourself, > not some oligarch), controlling the government instead of choosing > another power-hungry “czar.” And I am sure that soon they will > understand and accept this freedom with gratitude. > > The revolution gives us this chance, but the counter-revolution has > come, and come from abroad, from Russia. Russia has invaded the > Crimean peninsula, as I am sure you know. This is the revolutionary process that you say doesn't exist. ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
