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> On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Andrew Pollack <acpolla...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Marv made a simple mistake -- he > focused on our denunciation of Russia and extrapolated that incorrectly > into our supposed support for the government of Ukrainian oligarch set B > (following set A). Thanks, Andy. It's always been clear to me that you and the others don't support bourgeois governments, and I'm sorry to have left the the wrong impression. In relation to the Ukraine, because the the government and the mass movement which produced it are so intertwined, the zealous defense of the movement can be perceived or misperceived, as in your case, as the defence of the government around their shared program. Both are wholly dominated by right and far right parties and, despite the interest in the tiny Ukrainian left on the list, there is no evidence of a class struggle. If there were, there would be little difficulty differentiating between a repressive state and an independent class movement ranged against it, and the left would not be as divided on the question as it is now. Clay, Louis, and others have also denounced those who point to to the interimperialist rivalry between the West and Russia, dismissing the international context as largely irrelevant to the development of the Maidan movement and an effort by their political opponents to undercut it. But international and domestic politics are inseparable, and due attention needs to be paid to the relationship between them. The outcome of the greatest class struggle in Western Europe during the 20th century, the Spanish Civil War, was decisively influenced by the efforts of the USSR to reach an accomodation with the Western capitalist powers at the expense of the revolutionary process in that country. Earlier, the international class struggle was profoundly shaped by the split in the Second International directly resulting from the interimperialist rivalry which culminated in the First World War. ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
