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Mark Lause: It's an older proposal than that... try Edward Bellamy from the 1880s or George Lippard from the 1840s. Well, anyone who thinks about it, or surveys various successful and unsuccessful insurrections of the last century can easily see that their success or failure depends on whether the troops will fire on demonstrators or not. Carrol ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com