Comrade f580,
Thank you for your words although I don't consider myself an eloquent or even a
good writer to be honest with you.
I do not intend to argue with you as I appreciate not just your support but
your enthusiasm as a Marxist revolutionary dedicated to the preservation and
reaffirmation of Marxism-Leninism which this list was almost 10 years ago
anyway. Now it seems acceptable to espouse a highly revisionist line.
I will only comment on semantics which I used that seems to be upsetting to
some, however, make no apologies for its usage because I am not squeamish to
the point of being concerned with others feelings that really have no idea what
they are talking about, in particular...Melvin.
What does Websters say about extermination? Simply to get rid of completely
usu. by killing off SYN extirpate, eradicate, abolish, annihilate.
What does Websters say of elimination? Simply to remove, eradicate
Now...what does Websters say of eradicate? Simply to uproot, eliminate SYN is
exterminate, annihilate, abolish, extinguish
You are an intelligent Comrade so I'm sure you see the similarities here. The
words are basically one and the same.
I agree with your comment somewhat:
"...and we just don't use the word "exterminate" a people, at least not with
the connotations implied."
The proletarian morals you refer to does make a difference in terms of
comparison with the bourgeois enemies morals because they have none. There is
absolutely no honor or loyalty except to capital from the bourgeoisie's
"morals" go, therefore, they think nothing of the mass slaughter of people. We
see this truism against the Native Americans, we see this truism against the
people of the Balkans, and we are in the very process of seeing this truism
being applied right now in Afghanistan and Iraq. It seems to be an acceptable
tactic by Marxist humanists for the capitalists to exterminate people but when
a Marxist-Leninist, in this case, myself, calls for the extermination of the US
bourgeoisie as a class it upsets these bourgeoisified wanna be Marxists.
Simply put, the bourgeois class will be exterminated as a class. What I find
so laughable about Melvins fake indignition is that Marxian dialectics tell us
that in essence the capitalists are exterminating themselves, hence, Marx's
observation that capitalism creates its own "grave-diggers".
At times we must ask ourselves to what extent am I still conditioned by
bourgeois ideology. I continuously look and evaluate myself as to what
bourgeois thoughts and mannerisms remain in my character. Che addresses this
eloquently in his concept of the "new man" in which I agree that in order for
the "new man" to develop within each and everyone of us who call ourselves
Marxists we must conduct this evaluation and self-criticism because the
developmental process of the "new man" is a continual process and will remain
so until humanity has reached the point wherein all class society has itself
been exterminated and full communism can be realized.
As Marxist-Leninist revolutionaries we do not exterminate, eradicate,
eliminate, or annihilate a class of people in the bourgeois moral sense. We
must also realize what a "just" war is and when that is realized we can say as
Marxist-Leninist revolutionaries that we do not exterminate a class of people
for repugnant self-serving goals but exterminate the ruling-class because of
the very fact that they exterminate the working-class for these self-serving
goals and interests. In other words, we are only the mechanism by which the US
bourgeoisie will exterminate themselves as a class of exploiters.
Such use of the term exterminate by me is justified in that the working-class
has the historical role to overthrow the exploiting ruling-class and establish
a society that is completely free of exploitation of man by man whereas the
ruling-class will go to great lengths to preserve this vile social order by
resorting to the extermination of those who would challenge their power.
The US bourgeoisie does not care who they exterminate to achieve new markets
and resources or to protect their private property system, however, they do
realize they cannot exterminate the entire working-class or they will not have
their labor pool to provide them with their profits. Therefore, they are free
to exterminate and mass slaughter millions of proletarians the world over
because there is no shortage of workers.
The working-class is justified in exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class
because as Marxist-Leninists we do not need to exploit anyone to achieve a life
of economic as well as political freedom and liberty. It is the bourgeois
class alone that thrives on exploitation and will amke all attempts to restore
their vile system of exploitation so they will want and have the motive to
undertake reactionary counterrevolutionary violence against the working-class
and the dictatorship of the proletariat. The ruling-class will not just
roll-over and give up so they force the issue of violence all the way around.
Does this mean that every single member of the ruling-class will only set
themselves against the dictatorship of the proletariat? Likely not but then we
have to ask ourseles, will we be able to trust them?
Stalin in his speech Mastering Boleshevism, addresses a similar quandrum
regarding Trotskyists and stated that some could become loyal Comrades. If
some individuals were to defect from the former ruling-class to the
dictatorship of the proletariat then they will need to be dealt with on that
indivdual basis, however, the ruling-class as a class will be exterminated and
I have no problem in calling for its extermination because that will in fact be
the exact result of the victorious dictatorship of the proletariat whether I
say it now or never have said it.
I have no use for opportunists like Melvin because what his attempt here is is
to slander me in order to discredit my character so as to make himself look
good. His indignation is a false indignation in order to accomplish this
goal...one he has had for years but has not succeeded in yet doing. He is
trying once again to set me up as being a "terrorist" only to attempt to
establish his authority as some great Marxist all the while espousing nothing
but revisionism based on his mechanistic approach to Marxian dialectics.
It is obvious that he really knows much of nothing about Marxism. If he really
did have a real indignation why has he never criticized Stalin or the
Bolsheviks regarding the assassination of Trotsky? Was not Trotsky a traitor
to the working-class and the dictatorship of the proletariat?
Fraternally
Mark Scott
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