Dave, I think there is some value in distinguishing the kind of territorial
expansionism that occurred as the US (and Canadians, and Argentines, and
Portuguese in Brazil) "filled in" the continental area by either killing
off or conquering the indigenous populations (THe Dutch and British in
South Africa also comes to mind) ----

Filling in continguous areas, especially with settlers, seems to me
DIFFERENT from jumping to what were clearly separate entities (the
Phillipines -- Vietnam -- Korea [for the Japanese]) --- I think THOSE
acquisitions were what Lenin was talking about when he talked about
imperialism --- and I think that is the debate about China today ---

Does she aspire to control BEYOND the traditional "Han" empire?   (I admit
Vietnam is a halfway house because it's continguous with China)

On Fri, Sep 6, 2024 at 4:55 PM Dave Lindorff via groups.io <dlindorff=
[email protected]> wrote:

> That's not so say that because the PRC was expansionist to the limits of
> the expansions of various dynasties through history, it is today
> territorially expansionist, and a threat to other countries beyond those
> historical regions peopled by other nationalities and cultures, like
> Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Burma, Nepal, India, etc. I don't believe so
> myself. But I think by the definition of imperialism, China today must be
> seen as being the result of imperialist policies, which continue in the
> outer regions like Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia.
>
>
>


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