> On Jan 12, 2025, at 6:39 PM, Marv Gandall via groups.io
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Were he alive today, I very much doubt Trotsky would align himself with those
> of his admirers (probably a minority in the global movement although well
> represented on this list) who wish to see the Ukrainian national movement as
> engaged in an authentic war of liberation despite its already having achieved
> (capitalist) statehood, its bourgeois leadership, hostility to socialism, and
> embrace of Western imperialism.
Marv, I think you're conflating the "Right of Nations to Self Determination"
with the "Theory of Permanent Revolution." The working people of an occupied
(albeit capitalist) country will likely be worse off under occupation and will
fight the occupation or invasion shoulder-to-shoulder with other sectors of the
society, working class and other classes, who have a common enemy in the
invader. The doctrine of the right to self determination says that the working
classes need to lead that struggle.
Mark
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