On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 10:05 PM, Mark Baugher wrote:

> 
> 
>> * Post-stalinist campism. Certain political currents, either emerging from
>> the Communist Parties, or influenced by them, maintain an outlook in which
>> the world is divided up into an imperialist camp and an anti-imperialist
>> one. The former is identified as the United States, and the latter by any
>> existing state or regime whose geopolitical or domestic interests at any
>> moment appear to conflict with those of the US (Iran, India, Assad,
>> Maduro, Russia, China). This political outlook, through its Stalinist
>> heritage, has a certain purchase within the left social democratic
>> currents referenced above.
> 
> This is not the case with several MLists on marxmail. I'm not sure that
> this is a heritage thing at all. I think we find similar campist views
> among Trotskyists and post-Trotskyists.

What the so-called campists and anti-campists have in common on this list and 
outside of it is the belief that the current global order is "multipolar", with 
China and Russia as major challengers to US hegemony.  The two camps  differ 
only in their implacaable hostility or uncritical support of China and Russia.

In fact, the world is as unipolar today as it was after WW II,  and arguably 
even more so following the Cold War and the disappearance of the self-contained 
economic systems of the Soviet bloc and Maoist China and subsequent penetration 
of US and other foreign capital into these new zones of exploitation. Far from 
seeking to overturn the US-dominated global capitalist economy, China since 
Deng and Russia since Yeltsin and even Putin have aspired to integrate fully 
into it, their ambitions stymied by China's rise as an economic competitor to 
the US and NATO's steady expansion into Eastern Europe to the Russian border.

The Trump administration now appears willing to ease pressure on Russia in 
exchange for access to its resources and to allow it to concentrate its forces 
against China.. It is unclear at this stage whether the "pivot" to the Pacific 
arena is in preparation for a war with China seen as inevitable, or designed as 
leverage to extract maximum economic concessions from the Xi regime in exchange 
for recognizing, as in the Russian case, a narrow Chinese sphere of influence 
adjacent to its sea and land borders.


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