On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 07:20 PM, Tom Walker wrote: > > If one defines immiseration as separation from the means of production and > alienation of the worker's capacity to labour in the form of the objective > conditions of labouring, then the accumulation of capital is indeed > immisseration. If one defines immiserataion as adulteration of bread, etc. > then there are some additions Marx noted for the section on absolute > surplus value in his 1861-63 draft ...
One can define whatever one wants, but this is not how the people who have attributed an "immiseration" thesis to Marx use the word. They use it to impute a view to Marx that capitalist reproduction drives the material conditions of life of the proletariat to bare subsistence, and then say that because this has not happened Marx was wrong. I am saying that Marx does not argue this, not after his flight to London. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#39295): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/39295 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/116301050/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
