On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 10:41 AM, Ed George wrote:

> 
> One can define whatever one wants, but this is not how the people who have
> attributed an "immiseration" thesis to Marx use the word.

Just to clarify, I am *not* defending "how the people who have attributed an 
"immiseration" thesis to Marx use the word." I am advocating not throwing out 
the baby with the bath water. There is a danger of going too far in the other 
direction while trying to defend Marx from unwarranted scorn. We can agree that 
Marx did not say what his detractors claim he said and still leave room for 
dialogue about what he actually said. The sources I rely on are exclusively 
post-1851 and primarily successive drafts of Capital. It is not a coincidence 
that the Marx detractors often situate themselves in the Manifesto , just as 
many followers of Marx do. Marx's deep engagement with British political 
economy sharpened his analysis profoundly, and in some cases, modified it.


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