On Wed, Feb 4, 2026 at 10:58 AM, hari kumar wrote:

> 
> ...people here were saying that Democrats no better than Republicans. John
> R has been harping on against those on the list saying that for some time
> now, even very recently. However most of those being so castigated for
> that viewpoint, have been very silent on this recently. And I interpreted
> that to indicate they had drawn back from that position.

IMO, at the extremes both sides are correct, but in a one-sided way.  The 
Democrats are barely distinguishable from the Republicans at the top but are 
also very different in social composition and political level at the bottom:

1. The Republican leadership represents the conservative wing of the ruing 
class and the Democratic leadership its liberal wing. The big bourgeoisie uses 
elections to periodically entrust one or the other party with managing the 
system in accordance with its interests.

2. The Republicans have drawn their support from small property owners in the 
cities and countryside as well as the more atomized and politically backward 
sectors of the working class opposed to the labour movement and its allies.  
Like their kindred social democratic parties outside the US, the Democrats have 
since the New Deal traditionally drawn their support from the unions and the 
racial and gender equality,  environmental, and other social movements.

3. If a viable party of the left were to reemerge in the US, it will 
necessarily be spearheaded by the workers and social movement activists and 
their supporters abandoning the Democratic party en masse after a struggle to 
reform it from within.

4. To this end, Marxists have partcipated in the unions, parties, and movements 
supported by the more politically advanced workers. In doing so, they have 
taken into account the current level of working class political consciousness 
and combativity in formulating the appropriate demands and model of 
organization to help lead it forward.

5. This is what distinguishes Marxists from anarchists and other left 
sectarians whose demands and organizational models do not correspond to the 
current level of working class political consciousness. These are are premised 
on the belief - inherited from the elevated level of class struggle in the 
interwar period of the last century - that the working class is at the stage 
where it favours the overthrow rather than reform of the system.


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