>I know it's off-topic, but Charles, which SGI machines and linux versions
>are you using there?

Pentium 3 700 MHz, RH 8 - main webserver
Pentium 2 300 MHz, RH 8 - web development server
Pentium 1 166 MHz, RH9 - prepress print spooler
9600 300 MHz, YDL 2.3 - mail and print spooler
9600 300 MHz, YDL 2.3 - firewall, DNS, and outside mail server

G4 400 MHz, ASIP
G4 400 MHz, ASIP and OPI

Interestingly, I just got out of a software vendor meeting where they asked
if we used Novell or Windows networking. Disbelief when I said neither,
replaced by shock when I mentioned Linux ;)

We used a O2 R10000 175 MHz for our main outside webserver until the P3
took over.
We also ran Canto Cumulus Workgroup on that machine, util the memory leaks
in it bit us. We ran Maya on a O2 R10000 225 MHz until we moved to Win2K
for Maya.
We also ran Heidelberg DaVinci on a O2 RM5400 300 MHz until that software
was EOL.

We have run a SGI 4D 320 GTX and a Indigo2 Extreme for some applications.
The 4D 320 is a coffee table in our lobby now. It's a test of computer
knowledge for techies that come in ;)

>Irix is a bit nasty and bloated for my liking (not to
>mention expensive...) but I haven't really tried linux on the SGIs yet.

I have never tried Linux on SGI hardware. Slow is slow no matter what OS
runs on it. The 4D 320 had dual 33 MHz processors, the Indigo2 had a 150
MHz.

I did not load the windowing environment on IRIX for the webserver. If I
needed it, I would ssh in and start it up, then shut it down when done.
Software availablity for IRIX is iffy or expensive though. Once Sun bought
the Netscape servers, no more Enterprise Server (or the iPlanet equal) for
IRIX. For Open Source software to really work well, it needs to be compiled
by the SGI MIPS Pro compiler ($$$), which can get nasty as most config
scripts are made for gcc, which produced slow code on IRIX. I haven't tried
a 3.x version of gcc on IRIX, so that may have changed.

Personally, I find the IRIX desktop environment the best of all *NIX
systems, save OS X. I really like inst and the Software Manager, it beats
the pants off of Windows Update and OS X Software Update. But I actually
_like_ rpm, so count me as a weird one.
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Charles Dostale
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System Administrator, Silver Oaks Communications
http://www.silveroaks.com
824 17th Street, Moline IL USA  61265
309-797-9898

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