I remember stats.grok.se with fondness - as I understand it, that checked the raw Squid logs and tallied up the page hits.
I see we use the "pageviews" tool now - how available is that, and would it be usable outside tools.wmflabs.org? - d. On 27 May 2018 at 19:36, Lewis Cawte <lewisca...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I'm not too familiar with the code but I don't think it would be too > difficult to update HitCounters to run under 1.30. > > What state the extension is outside of the basic compatibility changes I > don't know. I think it was removed from core over general performance and > accuracy concerns. > > I'll try to remember to have a look this week. > > -- Lewis Cawte > > On Sun, 27 May 2018, 19:30 Stephan Gambke, <s7ep...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I am very much with Lewis on this: Using outdated MW versions poses > > significant security risks. > > > > That said, there is to my knowledge no one download package containing > > more than one skin. In fact, in the case of Chameleon there is no drop-in > > download package at all. You need to use Composer for installation. On > the > > upside, it is compatible with MW 1.22 or higher. See installation > > instructions here: > > https://github.com/cmln/chameleon/blob/master/docs/installation.md > > > > You could also download old skin versions from Github, e.g. for Monobook > > go to > > https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-skins-MonoBook , select the > > REL1_24 branch and download the ZIP. > > > > Of course, if you think that hitcounters are worth having, consider > giving > > that unmaintained extension some love and making it compatible with > modern > > MW. Others will thank you for it. > > > > Stephan > > > > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > > > On May 27, 2018 5:02 PM, Morten Blaabjerg <mortenblaabj...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Never tried it but the functionality was moved into an extension, > > > > > > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HitCounters > > > > > > I found this, but is seems unsupported, and I would probably be just as > > > > > > worse off with this as I would be with using 1.24 with a compatible > skin. > > > > > > > The MediaWiki site probably will not distribute the old versions of > > skins > > > > > > > > although they do exist in the old branches of their respective Git > > > > > > > > repositories. > > > > > > Would be great if I could just get a link to download a package of some > > of > > > > > > the compatible skins. I'm going to hack them to pieces anyway, just > need > > to > > > > > > get the wiki up and running with a skin, which is not too difficult to > > work > > > > > > with. Foreground, Chamaeleon, Tweeki or even some of the old simple > skins > > > > > > would probably do for starters. > > > > > > > Is there any particular reason why you are using such an old > > unsupported > > > > > > > > version of MediaWiki? > > > > > > Yes. The new version doesn't support "pageviews" and the > > > > > > "special:popularpages" has been removed. Why they would not simply > leave > > it > > > > > > in to people to enable or disable it according to their tastes, I don't > > > > > > get. I always thought it was quite useful for a small wiki to get an > > > > > > indication of what pages were actually read by people. > > > > > > > Sorry I can't be of more help at the moment - currently sat on a > > campsite. > > > > > > > > Sure! Thanks for your time! > > > > > > I am an old user/admin of MediaWiki from way back in the early days. > > > > > > A lot has changed since then for MW - a lot to the better. But I don't > > like > > > > > > the serious roadblocks that are in place for someone like me to not get > > to > > > > > > use an earlier version of the software, if I so please. Should be > fairly > > > > > > simple to keep old skins around to get to, if one had the taste for it. > > > > > > -- Lewis Cawte > > > > > > > On Sun, 27 May 2018, 12:13 Morten Blaabjerg, > mortenblaabj...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am building a proof of concept site, which will at a later stage, > > if it > > > > > > > > > > works the way I intend, be rebuilt from scratch and up. > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to use MediaWiki for this project, because of the speed by > > which > > > > > > > > > > it is possible to create a lot of articles in a short amount of > > time, and > > > > > > > > > > it has some cool statistics and special pages too to manage things, > > and I > > > > > > > > > > simply love the template functionality too. > > > > > > > > > > However, upon installing, I was surprised to learn, that the > > "pageviews" > > > > > > > > > > and "special:popularpages" was gone from the mediawiki from 1.25 > > onward, > > > > > > > > > > and I had great trouble installing 1.24 which was the last version > > with > > > > > > > > > > this functionality, because no skins were included with the old > > version, > > > > > > > > > > and I failed in finding compatible skins for this version, despite > > > > > > > > > > spending > > > > > > > > > > most of an evening online searching. On the official repository I > can > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > only skins compatible back to 1.27. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to use a modern skin which is compatible with 1.24, or > > the > > > > > > > > > > other way around, re-introduce the "pageviews" and "popularpages" > > > > > > > > > > functionality into the current mw version, via an extension, if > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > I don't want to go all the way to install google analytics. I just > > need > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > simple indication of how many times a page was asked for by a > > browser, > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > the accumulative results shown in the "special:popularpages" > special > > > > > > > > > > page. > > > > > > > > > > What is the best way to achieve that? I can understand the > > functionality > > > > > > > > > > removal was done with some dissent, so maybe someone already made > an > > > > > > > > > > extension for this functionality, or would it be comparatively easy > > to > > > > > > > > > > build one by oneself (since the code already exists, I assume). > > > > > > > > > > This is for a small mediawiki project, with just 1 editor, and no > > signups > > > > > > > > > > for anyone else, so I intend to use raw html in wiki pages as well. > > So I > > > > > > > > > > would have no problem using a workaround - say putting some code > in a > > > > > > > > > > template which is then in turn loaded in every page. But of course, > > it > > > > > > > > > > would be more easy to have it as part of the footer as it used to > be. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help in guiding me in the right > direction. > > > > > > > > > > Venlige hilsener, > > > > > > > > > > Morten Blaabjerg > > > > > > > > > > mortenblaabj...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, go to: > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, go to: > > > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > > > > > To unsubscribe, go to: > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > To unsubscribe, go to: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > To unsubscribe, go to: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list To unsubscribe, go to: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
