That's a good reply Errol, and for this time of night too ;-) I wasn't particularly pointing the finger at Andrew as I am unaware of the traffic laws in his state, and I have never worked in Traffic Branch.
I also think power to confiscate is medieval in certain circumstances. A detective arrests someone for armed robbery and they are sentenced to community service, yet the traffic clowns can confiscate someone's car for bagging up? Surely there are checks and balances for this, such as confiscation for recidivist burnouts and repeated nuisance behaviour. In my opinion it sounds like an idle threat as if the traffic boy was serious he would have taken the vehicle then and there. Discretion in traffic enforcement is another topic. I have many views on traffic and the fact it is the highest resourced section of the Police, but the list is no place for that! Cheers Brad -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of E Smith Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 12:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:Justice for all Datto's No one is suggesting that racing on suburban roads is acceptable. And I personally do not condone it. I think Andrew has been caught in a situation where he dropped a wheelie as he took off from a location and has been branded as a criminal as a result of this action. >From my past communication with Andrew and observing his responses on >list, I can only back him as exhibiting a responsible attitude to driving. As a regular motor sport competitor in a wide range of disciplines (at a national level) he has shown himself to be a most competent driver. This can be verified from results available in the public domain. These results would tend to indicate that if he did "smoke em up" when re-entering the roadway, he would have been still been continuously in control of the vehicle. (He was not doing donuts). Any suggestion that his vehicle should be confiscated as a result of hard acceleration onto the road way is draconian. I am not condoning law breaking on the roads in any form. Ialso must state that I am no one to look up too in these matters, as I have been guilty of the same, or worse in the past. Some times discretion on the part of the person notating the infringement, would go a long way to improving police/public relations. Not all persons who are accused of breaking the law have any intent as a motive. There should be some discretion on the part of the notating officer. Sometimes (and this may be an example) "due process and prosecution" may also end up having a negative influence on the broader community. Especially if it appears as if an injustice has been done. The listers world - wide subscribing to OZDAT would probably gain a very bad impression of our country from this type of reaction (confiscation of vehicle) from spinning some wheels. Oops sorry for the lecture (long post) I will hop off my soap - box now. Cheers Feral Errol -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Hallett Sent: Monday, 22 April 2002 10:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re:Ben/Legal matters I'll probably be howled down here but I don't care, I simply don't understand what the fascination is with doing a burnout or racing on suburban roads. If you want to build horsepower and prove yourself and your vehicle, build a club racer or street class dragger and do your burnouts and racing at the track. Don't fuck around on the street that our families drive on to get to work, school, uni etc. Cheers Brad -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Jackson Sent: Monday, 22 April 2002 9:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters it's actually called discretion :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:12 PM Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters > your missing the point, he can do something like that and only get > fined, whereas a car is being impounded for much less, that is what i > meant by my "Bloody cops" remark > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:06 PM > Subject: Re:Ben/Legal matters > > > > Ben. > > Don't you mean bloodie idiot mate. > > He got wot he deserved. > > He doesn't deserve a licence or to own his car he deffinatly desrves > > to > have it confiscated. > > Rick White. > > > > --- "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > its a bit harsh, my mate has been caught doing a toey in front of a > > cop, > he > > got a $80 fine and got told there are places to do things like > > this......empty car parks, heh. also just the other day he let his > > v8 > charger > > come full noise opp lock around a corner in town, smoke pouring > > outta the > > tyres, right in front of a cop.....once again $80 fine, no points. bloody > cops. > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Get Your free Ozdat Email Account > > ---> http://www.ozdat.com > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Run a small business? 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