what was the reasoning behind banning this particular car? because it was too quick? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 10:38 PM Subject: Lancia Delta S4 - 4wd Group B rally weapon
> I have just searched my archives and found the specs of the Lancia Delta S4 > Group B rally car. It goes close to my most desired car. > Here they are: > Produced in mid 1985, it had an Abarth engine of 1759cc mid/rear mounted, > with a KKK Turbo plus Volumex "compressor" (supercharger) providing 1.35 > Bar. The early cars produced 298KW at 8000RPM and 392 Nm of torque at > 5000RPM (and over 270Nm at 2000RPM.). Rev limit was 10000RPM, so it was no > slugger! > It had a driveline that looks like a Subaru flipped front to rear, engine > longitudinal but behind the crew, with the 5 speed gearbox facing forward. A > twin plate clutch driving through front, rear and centre diff, which could > only be altered for front to rear balance by mechanical adjustment. (This > was improved by the time they were winning ralllies) > Wheels were 8 by 16 front and 12 by 16 in rear, under huge boxed guard > flares, popular at the time. > A very short exhaust pipe poked under the rear skirt from the KKK turbo > which was mounted across the drive line, 90 degrees to the trend today, the > exhaust went through the turbo in a spiral, exiting on the outer perimeter, > not doing a right angle turn and exiting from the centre as is the common > turbo design today. The air intake came through vents in the roof. > > The car weighed 870 Kgm, the minimum allowed for the class. It was basically > a tube frame chassis with a kevlar shell. Body specs were: > Wheelbase 2440mm > Overall length 3990mm > Width 1880mm > Hight1400mm > Weight to power 3.00Kgm per kW (Not too bad eh?) > > This Lancia dominated European rallying for 2 years until it was banned. > This was a very desirable vehicle in its day and still is - anyone know of > one for sale? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2002 20:05 PM > Subject: Re: Fastest 1600 vs Lancia 4wd weapon > > > > OK Errol I will. > > > > Anyone know who hires these specialised videos in Melbourne? > > > > I must search my back issue motor mags to get a drawing of the Lancia > Delta, > > it was before the Stratos and much more radical in its engineering, The > > Stratos was mild in comparison, as it conformed to the new regs after the > > Group B rally cars were banned. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, 8 June 2002 23:12 PM > > Subject: RE: Fastest 1600 vs Lancia 4wd weapon > > > > > > > Check out the video "too fast to race!" if you get the chance. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Feral Errol > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Clough > > > Sent: Saturday, 8 June 2002 9:50 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Fastest 1600 vs Lancia 4wd weapon > > > > > > Is this the Lancia that helped their WRC domination? > > > They were called Deltas. Basically they were a very little box, smaller > > > than a Datsun 1600. > > > > > > Purpose built for WRC they were the first truly modern rally car, a > > > generation ahead of the more conventional Audi Quattro 4WD that had > > > dominated prior to these arriving. The big difference was the layout of > > the > > > driveline, which put the mid engine behind the gearbox. The box sat > > between > > > the driver and nav facing "backward". They had a 1600cc engine where > the > > > back seat would be normally. They had a KKK supercharger for lowdown > grunt > > > which cut out and a turbocharger took over at high revs. HP was 300, > all > > > you could put down on a road in a 4wd car weighing bugger all. The > > > suspension was also high tech. > > > Although they looked like a high tech nightmare in drawings, they were > > very > > > easy to work on as most important bits were spread well apart, even > though > > > the engine was inside the car. They got banned when Group G? rally cars > > > became too fast for open roads in the late 1980's. > > > > > > In my view, the Delta's design spawned the many of the ideas now in > > current > > > WRX, Lancers, Peugeot's etc.which have all copied elements of the Deltas > > > (except the complex blown mid engine). > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "nat P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, 7 June 2002 13:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: Fastest 1600 vs Lancia 4wd weapon > > > > > > > > > > Yep!!! They ARE the fastest 4wd things you can get! > > > > > > > > I mate owns one in London, He has worked his with all > > > > factory rally gear and he goes around hunting WRX and > > > > eating them for breakfast!! > > > > > > > > They also won the WRC 5 (constructors title) years in > > > > a row! They were still competitive even after Lancia > > > > pullled the plug on the works stuff, They even won > > > > another Drivers title after that as well!! > > > > > > > > Lancia/(and Pugs) are teh best at 4wd cars, hands > > > > down!! And audi is a close third! > > > > > > > > Cheers NAT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Yep, its a RHD model imported privately by the last > > > > > owner, a Doctor who moved from the UK to NZ .A few > > > > > Italian car-nuts in my family lots of 124s and GTVs > > > > > have come and gone or rusted away :) Driven fairly > > > > > regularly and has burnt a lot of Japanese cars. > > > > > Hopefully I can redress things with my next 510 :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > > > Send (un)subscribe requests to > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > http://www.sold.com.au - The Sold.com.au Big Brand Sale > > > > - New PCs, notebooks, digital cameras, phones and more ... 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