Thanks for the elaboration Terry - never realised the difference - Ill go
check out some manuals as I think this may explain a difference I couldnt
explain in clutch free-play when I transfered my gearbox into my current
car.

Thanks
Andrew


On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Terry Rudd wrote:

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew
> Greenbury
> Sent: Monday, 10 February 2003 9:13 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Gearboxes, 4spd Vs 5spd
> Andrew,
>
> OK, I'll try to use the correct terms this time to avoid any further
> confusion.
>
> The main differences between a 1600 and 180B/Stanza/200B etc clutch:
>
> The 1600 has an adjustable nut on the push rod and the 180B/Stanza etc
> doesn't - refer Scientific Publications workshop manual SP #88 pg 75 for
> picture of slave cylinder components;
>
> To accommodate the adjusting nut, the 1600 release arm has a hole in the end
> of it (pg 77), the others only have an indentation to secure the self
> adjusting release rod.
>
> The 1600 has a variety of release bearing holders, i.e. short and long. The
> Japanese clutch was a coil spring type and is 10 - 12mm further away from
> the flywheel at the 3 release fingers (pg 72) than the more conventional
> (Aussie) spring diaphragm type (pg 73);
>
> The Japanese clutch plate has 4 large cushion springs (Pg 72) and the Aussie
> has 6 much smaller cushion springs (Pg 73) and that's about all there is
> different.
>
> regards
> Terry
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> I was wondering could you pls elaborate a bit on the clutch release
> bar part you mentioned - is this the clutch fork? What are the
> differences, and how does the 5 speed one auto-adjust? i did not
> realise there were different types.
>
> Thanks
> Andrew
>
> > Stuey,
>
> > Gearbox: modify gearbox xmember (varies depending on what the 5 spd is out
> > of - i.e. long box, stumpy or dogleg), assuming long box you need 955mm
> > tailshaft (stock 1600 is 1090mm), flat type rear engine mount eg 240K,
> C210
> > or Stanza (can't recall whether 200B fit), longer speedo cable eg 180B
> auto
> > or 620, if you want to use the 1600 adjustable clutch release bar you have
> > to change it over in the bell housing, make sure that you use the release
> > bearing that goes with the clutch being used (different length i.e.
> shorter
> > is used on 1600 to most other Datsun clutches), if you want to use the
> auto
> > adjusting clutch release rod off the 5 spd box, then just bolt the 1600
> > slave cylinder up the 5 speed and bleed it - it's that easy. Some 5 spd
> > boxes will need a small adjustment to the hole in the tranny tunnel, easy
> to
> > do but you are supposed to re-enforce the tunnel for rego purposes, and
> > watch out for the rear brake line as it runs right under the top of the
> > tranny tunnel, cut it and you'll not be happy.
>
>
>
>

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