Someone should name a town " Absolute Truth" so we could arrive there.
I once had a friend who told me there were no absolutes. I asked him if he was absolutely sure. Rick S On Oct 27, 12:57 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "By "pinnacle of thought" I mean that one believes they have arrived > at > the absolute truth.... (and no one can convince them otherwise)." - > Rick > > Yes Rick, and, by extension, would not this arrival at 'the absolute > truth' result in omniscience? > > On Oct 27, 10:51 am, Rick S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > By "pinnacle of thought" I mean that one believes they have arrived at > > the absolute truth.... (and no one can convince them otherwise). > > > Rick S > > > On Oct 27, 12:44 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > “I'm just trying to be diplomatic.” – Rick > > > > Yes Rick, I knew that. I was just using a lazy and simple method of > > > adding my view to the mix. > > > > “One of the things I've noticed in all the groups I've joined is that > > > some members seem very dogmatic.” – Rick > > > > Yes, and not only in groups. Differing levels of belief (dogma), many > > > of which are based upon nothing are found within the human psyche… > > > always have, always will be. > > > > “Everyone has a reason for believing what they believe, but to > > > believe > > > that one has somehow reached the very pinnacle of thought just by > > > rejecting relgious thoughts or ideas and adopting scientific thought > > > as the only valid form of reasoning seems to me to be very similar to > > > the "fundamentalist" rigidity they decry.” – Rick > > > > I’m not sure that we all have reason(s) for our belief structures, > > > many do, but I doubt all do. And, what is this ‘pinnacle of thought’ > > > you mention? Do you imply omniscience? If so, it is a strange > > > juxtaposition with scientific thought, appropriate, but strange. > > > > “So, another question. Is it possible to be a "fundamentalist > > > atheist"?” – Rick > > > > Fundamentalism is found for any and all types of thought, atheism > > > included. This is directly implied by your earlier comments on dogma. > > > And, often fanaticism is associated with this level of > > > ‘understanding’. > > > > On Oct 27, 10:33 am, Rick S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'm just trying to be diplomatic. One of the things I've noticed in > > > > all the groups I've joined is that some members seem very dogmatic. > > > > Everyone has a reason for believing what they believe, but to believe > > > > that one has somehow reached the very pinnacle of thought just by > > > > rejecting relgious thoughts or ideas and adopting scientific thought > > > > as the only valid form of reasoning seems to me to be very similar to > > > > the "fundamentalist" rigidity they decry. So, another question. Is > > > > it possible to be a "fundamentalist atheist"? > > > > > On Oct 27, 11:51 am, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > "...to suggest that there is no possibilty that something might exist > > > > > that could provide more insight into our lives other than just using > > > > > our minds in their conscious state might be too dogmatic." - Rick > > > > > > I would remove the term 'might be' here and replace it with 'is'. > > > > > > On Oct 27, 9:31 am, Rick S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm sure there are thousands or maybe millions of twins that would > > > > > > disagree with your assessment. No being a twin myself, I can never > > > > > > know for sure. As for going beyond logic, I saw a very interesting > > > > > > video on TED > > > > > > http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_strok... > > > > > > where a brain scientist reveals what happenned to her during her > > > > > > stroke. She calls it a powerful stroke of insight. My point is not > > > > > > that we should not use logic and rationality. Of course we should. > > > > > > But to suggest that there is no possibilty that something might > > > > > > exist > > > > > > that could provide more insight into our lives other than just using > > > > > > our minds in their conscious state might be too dogmatic. > > > > > > > Rick S > > > > > > > On Oct 27, 10:58 am, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > << And there's intuition, like when twins separated by some > > > > > > > distance know the other is hurt. >> > > > > > > > > No, they don't. > > > > > > > > <<Anyone who has studied Quantum physics even a little will > > > > > > > realize > > > > > > > that there are things in the universe that seem to defy logic. > > > > > > > And >> > > > > > > > > You're misusing the term "logic" here. Quantum physics may have > > > > > > > propositions which contradict the propositions you use in everyday > > > > > > > life, but the logic that manipulates those propositions remains > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > same.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
