“I'm just trying to be diplomatic.” – Rick Yes Rick, I knew that. I was just using a lazy and simple method of adding my view to the mix.
“One of the things I've noticed in all the groups I've joined is that some members seem very dogmatic.” – Rick Yes, and not only in groups. Differing levels of belief (dogma), many of which are based upon nothing are found within the human psyche… always have, always will be. “Everyone has a reason for believing what they believe, but to believe that one has somehow reached the very pinnacle of thought just by rejecting relgious thoughts or ideas and adopting scientific thought as the only valid form of reasoning seems to me to be very similar to the "fundamentalist" rigidity they decry.” – Rick I’m not sure that we all have reason(s) for our belief structures, many do, but I doubt all do. And, what is this ‘pinnacle of thought’ you mention? Do you imply omniscience? If so, it is a strange juxtaposition with scientific thought, appropriate, but strange. “So, another question. Is it possible to be a "fundamentalist atheist"?” – Rick Fundamentalism is found for any and all types of thought, atheism included. This is directly implied by your earlier comments on dogma. And, often fanaticism is associated with this level of ‘understanding’. On Oct 27, 10:33 am, Rick S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm just trying to be diplomatic. One of the things I've noticed in > all the groups I've joined is that some members seem very dogmatic. > Everyone has a reason for believing what they believe, but to believe > that one has somehow reached the very pinnacle of thought just by > rejecting relgious thoughts or ideas and adopting scientific thought > as the only valid form of reasoning seems to me to be very similar to > the "fundamentalist" rigidity they decry. So, another question. Is > it possible to be a "fundamentalist atheist"? > > On Oct 27, 11:51 am, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > "...to suggest that there is no possibilty that something might exist > > that could provide more insight into our lives other than just using > > our minds in their conscious state might be too dogmatic." - Rick > > > I would remove the term 'might be' here and replace it with 'is'. > > > On Oct 27, 9:31 am, Rick S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm sure there are thousands or maybe millions of twins that would > > > disagree with your assessment. No being a twin myself, I can never > > > know for sure. As for going beyond logic, I saw a very interesting > > > video on TED > > > http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_strok... > > > where a brain scientist reveals what happenned to her during her > > > stroke. She calls it a powerful stroke of insight. My point is not > > > that we should not use logic and rationality. Of course we should. > > > But to suggest that there is no possibilty that something might exist > > > that could provide more insight into our lives other than just using > > > our minds in their conscious state might be too dogmatic. > > > > Rick S > > > > On Oct 27, 10:58 am, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > << And there's intuition, like when twins separated by some > > > > distance know the other is hurt. >> > > > > > No, they don't. > > > > > <<Anyone who has studied Quantum physics even a little will realize > > > > that there are things in the universe that seem to defy logic. And >> > > > > > You're misusing the term "logic" here. Quantum physics may have > > > > propositions which contradict the propositions you use in everyday > > > > life, but the logic that manipulates those propositions remains the > > > > same.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
