That's all well and good, but it seems beside the point.  Consider
this syllogism:

Freethought is the use of logic, reason and evidence instead of
tradition, emotion or dogma to determine beliefs. Han Solo determines
his beliefs (including his belief in God) using logic, reason and
evidence instead of tradition, emotion or dogma. Therefore, Han Solo
is a freethinker.

Where is the formal fallacy in that?  You can argue that the minor
premise is improbable, but so what?  A negative conclusion would
require adding atheism to the major premise, but that's precicely what
the essay is about!  That's begging the question.  To argue
effectively against the ideas in the essay, one must offer compelling
reasons why atheism should be a prerequisite of freethought rather
than a consequence of it.

Aaron

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/features/2000/lowder1.html

On Oct 28, 10:52 pm, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <<Clog, I don't understand.  Are you incapable of thinking
> hypothetically, or are you just being stubborn because you don't like
> where this particular conversation might lead?>>
>
> Clog is making an inductive argument:
> ===
> All efforts at using logic and reason to demonstrate the existence of
> a god have resulted in unsound arguments.  Therefore, no sound
> arguments exist and thus anyone who believes in a god does so through
> faith.
> ===
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