Printed the whole spiel out on the home page, but on further investigation,
found a name that makes me uneasy...Ekhart Tolle.  So, I am dancing around
it with a suspicious eye.

http://www.naturalism.org/spiritua.htm

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> <<However, naturalism does call into question the basis for
> retributive attitudes, namely the idea
> that individuals could have done otherwise in the situation in which
> their behavior arose and so deeply deserve punishment. >>
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> No, it doesn't.  The idea of punishment doesn't require any moral
> agent.  If you are a punisher, you are part of the natural world that
> the organism deals with and it will adjust its behavior to avoid the
> punishment. If the punishment is swift, assured and unpleasant, the
> organism cannot do otherwise.
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> The idea of punishment being "deserved" is irrelevant.  The only thing
> that's important is that it exists..
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