"... Experimenting with altered states can be very enlightening; you
just have to be sure of the situation you are in when you do.  ..." -
Prestone

While entheogens have been used 'forever', in no way are they a
requirement for enlightened states.

On Nov 11, 1:46 pm, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If it were legal, I think it would be fine recreationally.  Triumph of 
> moderation is the key here.  Experimenting with altered states can be very 
> enlightening; you just have to be sure of the situation you are in when you 
> do.  The adage "Don't let the situation control you rather you control the 
> situation" applies here.  Driving around in a car while on acid is a bad 
> choice; putting yourself in a safe environment with a designated sober while 
> tripping is a better choice.  But most "experiencing" is  illegal so that 
> makes it a bad choice in general.
>
> BTW, chemically speaking, mary jane is a hallucinogen.
>
> Prestone
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: CrossBow
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:39 PM
>   Subject: Re: Romancing the Stoned
>
>   Hahaha! funny think!
>
>   I would agree about the gateway theory... but - I have turned down about 
> 100 bales of marijuana approx. in my short life, and was probably enebriated 
> most of that time.  Living with musicians and artists will do that.  I never 
> did coke, heroin, or anything else.  My own curious cocktail of brain 
> chemicals have been adventure enough to keep me barely surviving.  I think 
> all those love chemicals are dangerous, and cause more harm than good for 
> some.  Imagine overload on the oxytocin! serotonin! whew! Makes it easy to 
> fall in love for some and not so good for others. Evolution is a bitch:)
>
>   On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>     Oh, I believe in the gateway theory....and to that end, believe that
>     all milk should be outlawed! :-)
>
>     On Nov 11, 12:16 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     > Big Pharm does not seem to want much investigation into anything that 
> isn't
>     > synthetically produced does it?  Wasn't it the Rockefeller's and the
>     > Carnegie's that started pushing modern medicine/pills that buried the
>     > apothecary?
>
>     > My mother grew up on a road called "Hemp Patch", and no, that is not 
> what is
>     > wrong with me:) I'm with you on decriminalization and I don't believe 
> in the
>     > gateway theory either.
>
>     > seems like everyone I knew at one time had a pocket full of vicodin!  
> made
>     > me TOO sleepy..
>
>     > here is a site for that opiate of the masses...luv:
>
>     >http://www.oxytocin.org/oxytoc/love-science.html
>
>     > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:50 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>     > > "…Think it will legalize?" – CB
>
>     > > It is quite difficult to tell. Not in the near future would be my
>     > > guess. It is a very complex situation. As a kid, I heard about the
>     > > green gel that could be purchased OTC that was mostly hash. Of course,
>     > > Coke used to have real coke in it. The snake oils of the past were
>     > > quite often even more addictive than much on the market today. The
>     > > current 'drugs' that are most addictive fall in the sweetener
>     > > categories. I'm leaving out the obvious things like cigs, alcohol and
>     > > the illegal drugs along with the 'legal' prescribed drugs.
>
>     > > I would guess that most of you have seen 'Reefer Madness'? Woody
>     > > Harrelson's movie 'Grass' is a great view of the history in the US.
>     > >http://worldfilm.about.com/library/00nowplaying/blgrass.htm
>     > >http://www.sphinxproductions.com/pages/film_grass.html
>     > >http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0214730/
>
>     > > He appears in a new movie about the topic too:
>     > >http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417750/
>
>     > > Over the decades, along with a large group of people in the US, my
>     > > view is that at the very least this plant should be decriminalized. I
>     > > won't go into all of the great uses for hemp but will say that it used
>     > > to be a major part of the US economy and should still be. My dad owned
>     > > a house out on the tip of Big Pine Island where there used to be a
>     > > large hemp farm. Just the other day, I had some hempmilk. The clothing
>     > > would rival many other companies. Of course, the drug itself would fly
>     > > in the face of the FDA and AMA. Since apothecaries were banned in the
>     > > US, such things have been regulated by the powerful for money and
>     > > power reasons rather than the public good overall.
>
>     > > Even though the government remains a major obstacle, the general
>     > > public is beginning to come around. (read: old farts are dying out)
>
>     > > On Nov 11, 8:10 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     > > > Marijuana was listed in the United States Pharmacopoeia from 1850
>     > > > until 1942 and was prescribed for various conditions including labor
>     > > > pains, nausea, and rheumatism.
>
>     > > >http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=40921&source=newsletter
>
>     > > > Think it will legalize?- Hide quoted text -
>
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