I have to admit, I sort of lust after Mary Jane  sometimes.  I would have no 
idea where in the world to find her  though.  
 
J.
 
 
If it were legal, I think  it would be fine recreationally.  Triumph of 
moderation is the  key here.  Experimenting with altered states can be very 
enlightening;  you just have to be sure of the situation you are in when you 
do.  The 
 adage "Don't let the situation control you rather you control the situation" 
 applies here.  Driving around in a car while on acid is a bad choice;  
putting yourself in a safe environment with a designated sober while tripping  
is a 
better choice.  But most "experiencing" is  illegal so  that makes it a bad 
choice in general.
 
BTW, chemically speaking,  mary jane is a hallucinogen.
 
Prestone

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _CrossBow_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[email protected])   
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:39  PM
Subject: Re: Romancing the Stoned


Hahaha! funny think!
 
I would agree about the gateway theory... but - I have turned down  about 100 
bales of marijuana approx. in my short life, and was probably  enebriated 
most of that time.  Living with musicians and artists will  do that.  I never 
did 
coke, heroin, or anything else.  My own  curious cocktail of brain chemicals 
have been adventure enough to keep me  barely surviving.  I think all those 
love chemicals are dangerous, and  cause more harm than good for some.  Imagine 
overload on the oxytocin!  serotonin! whew! Makes it easy to fall in love for 
some and not so good for  others. Evolution is a bitch:)

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >  wrote:


Oh,  I believe in the gateway theory....and to that end, believe that
all  milk should be outlawed! :-)

On Nov 11, 12:16 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >  wrote:
> Big Pharm does not seem to want much investigation into  anything that isn't
> synthetically produced does it?  Wasn't  it the Rockefeller's and the
> Carnegie's that started pushing  modern medicine/pills that buried the
> apothecary?
>
>  My mother grew up on a road called "Hemp Patch", and no, that is not what  
is
> wrong with me:) I'm with you on decriminalization and I don't  believe in 
the
> gateway theory either.
>
> seems like  everyone I knew at one time had a pocket full of vicodin!  made
> me TOO sleepy..
>
> here is a site for that  opiate of the masses...luv:
>
> _http://www.oxytocin.org/oxytoc/love-science.html_ 
(http://www.oxytocin.org/oxytoc/love-science.html) 
>

>  On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:50 PM, ornamentalmind 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >wrote:


>
>
>
>
>
> >  "…Think it will legalize?" – CB
>
> > It is quite difficult  to tell. Not in the near future would be my
> > guess. It is a  very complex situation. As a kid, I heard about the
> > green gel  that could be purchased OTC that was mostly hash. Of course,
> >  Coke used to have real coke in it. The snake oils of the past were
>  > quite often even more addictive than much on the market today.  The
> > current 'drugs' that are most addictive fall in the  sweetener
> > categories. I'm leaving out the obvious things like  cigs, alcohol and
> > the illegal drugs along with the 'legal'  prescribed drugs.
>
> > I would guess that most of you have  seen 'Reefer Madness'? Woody
> > Harrelson's movie 'Grass' is a  great view of the history in the US.
> >_http://worldfilm.about.com/library/00nowplaying/blgrass.htm_ 
(http://worldfilm.about.com/library/00nowplaying/blgrass.htm) 
>  >_http://www.sphinxproductions.com/pages/film_grass.html_ 
(http://www.sphinxproductions.com/pages/film_grass.html) 
>  >_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0214730/_ 
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0214730/) 
>
>  > He appears in a new movie about the topic too:
> >_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417750/_ 
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417750/) 
>
>  > Over the decades, along with a large group of people in the US,  my
> > view is that at the very least this plant should be  decriminalized. I
> > won't go into all of the great uses for  hemp but will say that it used
> > to be a major part of the US  economy and should still be. My dad owned
> > a house out on the  tip of Big Pine Island where there used to be a
> > large hemp  farm. Just the other day, I had some hempmilk. The clothing
> >  would rival many other companies. Of course, the drug itself would  fly
> > in the face of the FDA and AMA. Since apothecaries were  banned in the
> > US, such things have been regulated by the  powerful for money and
> > power reasons rather than the public  good overall.
>
> > Even though the government remains a  major obstacle, the general
> > public is beginning to come  around. (read: old farts are dying out)
>
> > On Nov 11,  8:10 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >  wrote:
> > > Marijuana was listed in the United States  Pharmacopoeia from 1850
> > > until 1942 and was prescribed  for various conditions including labor
> > > pains, nausea,  and rheumatism.
>
> > >_http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=40921&source=newsletter_ 
(http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=40921&source=newsletter) 
>


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