Great article in Salon concerning the patent on medical marijuana...I
had no idea that the US Government owned the patent....Whammy!

check this out......

http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=45266&source=newsletter

On Nov 11, 6:54 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "... Experimenting with altered states can be very enlightening; you
> just have to be sure of the situation you are in when you do.  ..." -
> Prestone
>
> While entheogens have been used 'forever', in no way are they a
> requirement for enlightened states.
>
> On Nov 11, 1:46 pm, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > If it were legal, I think it would be fine recreationally.  Triumph of 
> > moderation is the key here.  Experimenting with altered states can be very 
> > enlightening; you just have to be sure of the situation you are in when you 
> > do.  The adage "Don't let the situation control you rather you control the 
> > situation" applies here.  Driving around in a car while on acid is a bad 
> > choice; putting yourself in a safe environment with a designated sober 
> > while tripping is a better choice.  But most "experiencing" is  illegal so 
> > that makes it a bad choice in general.
>
> > BTW, chemically speaking, mary jane is a hallucinogen.
>
> > Prestone
>
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: CrossBow
> >   To: [email protected]
> >   Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:39 PM
> >   Subject: Re: Romancing the Stoned
>
> >   Hahaha! funny think!
>
> >   I would agree about the gateway theory... but - I have turned down about 
> > 100 bales of marijuana approx. in my short life, and was probably 
> > enebriated most of that time.  Living with musicians and artists will do 
> > that.  I never did coke, heroin, or anything else.  My own curious cocktail 
> > of brain chemicals have been adventure enough to keep me barely surviving.  
> > I think all those love chemicals are dangerous, and cause more harm than 
> > good for some.  Imagine overload on the oxytocin! serotonin! whew! Makes it 
> > easy to fall in love for some and not so good for others. Evolution is a 
> > bitch:)
>
> >   On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >     Oh, I believe in the gateway theory....and to that end, believe that
> >     all milk should be outlawed! :-)
>
> >     On Nov 11, 12:16 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >     > Big Pharm does not seem to want much investigation into anything that 
> > isn't
> >     > synthetically produced does it?  Wasn't it the Rockefeller's and the
> >     > Carnegie's that started pushing modern medicine/pills that buried the
> >     > apothecary?
>
> >     > My mother grew up on a road called "Hemp Patch", and no, that is not 
> > what is
> >     > wrong with me:) I'm with you on decriminalization and I don't believe 
> > in the
> >     > gateway theory either.
>
> >     > seems like everyone I knew at one time had a pocket full of vicodin!  
> > made
> >     > me TOO sleepy..
>
> >     > here is a site for that opiate of the masses...luv:
>
> >     >http://www.oxytocin.org/oxytoc/love-science.html
>
> >     > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:50 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> >     > > "…Think it will legalize?" – CB
>
> >     > > It is quite difficult to tell. Not in the near future would be my
> >     > > guess. It is a very complex situation. As a kid, I heard about the
> >     > > green gel that could be purchased OTC that was mostly hash. Of 
> > course,
> >     > > Coke used to have real coke in it. The snake oils of the past were
> >     > > quite often even more addictive than much on the market today. The
> >     > > current 'drugs' that are most addictive fall in the sweetener
> >     > > categories. I'm leaving out the obvious things like cigs, alcohol 
> > and
> >     > > the illegal drugs along with the 'legal' prescribed drugs.
>
> >     > > I would guess that most of you have seen 'Reefer Madness'? Woody
> >     > > Harrelson's movie 'Grass' is a great view of the history in the US.
> >     > >http://worldfilm.about.com/library/00nowplaying/blgrass.htm
> >     > >http://www.sphinxproductions.com/pages/film_grass.html
> >     > >http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0214730/
>
> >     > > He appears in a new movie about the topic too:
> >     > >http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417750/
>
> >     > > Over the decades, along with a large group of people in the US, my
> >     > > view is that at the very least this plant should be decriminalized. 
> > I
> >     > > won't go into all of the great uses for hemp but will say that it 
> > used
> >     > > to be a major part of the US economy and should still be. My dad 
> > owned
> >     > > a house out on the tip of Big Pine Island where there used to be a
> >     > > large hemp farm. Just the other day, I had some hempmilk. The 
> > clothing
> >     > > would rival many other companies. Of course, the drug itself would 
> > fly
> >     > > in the face of the FDA and AMA. Since apothecaries were banned in 
> > the
> >     > > US, such things have been regulated by the powerful for money and
> >     > > power reasons rather than the public good overall.
>
> >     > > Even though the government remains a major obstacle, the general
> >     > > public is beginning to come around. (read: old farts are dying out)
>
> >     > > On Nov 11, 8:10 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >     > > > Marijuana was listed in the United States Pharmacopoeia from 1850
> >     > > > until 1942 and was prescribed for various conditions including 
> > labor
> >     > > > pains, nausea, and rheumatism.
>
> >     > > >http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=40921&source=newsletter
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