True....Kate Moss is unhealthily thin and unattractive to a lot of men
when she's that thin.  A 117 lbs person is severely underweight.  135
lbs is the lightest a 5'11" woman should be (about 18.5 BMI).  Kate
Moss has had a much lower BMI.

Those BMIs were established by watching people across decades to
determined what weights predict death or disease.  A better estimate
would be percent of body fat because a small percentage of the
population have a lot of muscle mass that throws off the
calculations.  If I remember correctly, something like 98% of the
population (including most muscular weight lifters and professional
athletes) fit within and should use the the BMI category.   A few
(really, really muscular people) should use body fat instead of BMI.

On Nov 18, 10:38 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> True. Heck yes fat ladies want to bash on super skinny ones.  Never heard of
> a skinny chick that wants to be fat.  I bash sickly skinniness...Think Kate
> Moss who lives on a liquid diet and looks mostly dead.  Now Gabrielle
> Reese is smokin HOT! To me she looks like the perfect 10.
>
> When I was body building I weighed 128 lbs at 5'6" and could crack a wallnut
> with my butt cheeks! Plus bench one and a half times my body weight.  See, I
> have loads of testosterone to deal with..but since I have Amerind blood, I
> didn't get the beard:) Now, I am 5'6' and 150 soon to change back to 130
> when I get Steve's weight machine.  And, I will still look girly:)
>
> Liz and I were discussing human survival was once programmed to find and
> hoard fat.  That was how we survived.  Fat storage. Well, not much has
> changed except the food dosent run away and we don't have to chase it:)  We
> still have a drive to eat everything in sight...or at least most of us do.
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jason (Memphis) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > wrote:
>
> > CrossBow,
>
> > That is because most American women (and men) are overweight.    A
> > woman weighing 140 lbs at 5 ft 4 is healthy but definitely in the
> > upper part of her weight range (with the exception of the rare body
> > builder).  The criteria should be predicted death rates and health
> > issues based your weight (or even better, the percent of body fat).
>
> > These are some common strategies of fat women:
>
> > (a) Fat American women label themselves as skinny for self-esteem
> > reasons
> > (b) Fat American women change the fat bar and act like fat is really
> > skinny
> > (c) Fat American women think that men should start believing that fat
> > people are more attractive than healthier skinner women
> > (d)  Fat Amercan women think that since losing weight is difficult,
> > women should not have to do it.
> > (e) Fat American women make fun of healthy skinny women and act as if
> > those women are unhappy (due to maintenance) and less attractive (such
> > as calling them "starving," "stick figures," etc.).
> > (f).  etc
>
> > There is a such thing as too thin; however, a  5 ft 4 in woman who
> > weighs say 120 lbs is not too thin and is not unhealthy.
>
> > Jason
>
> > On Nov 17, 4:00 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Well, I guess your average that she is fatter than the average figure for
> > > women worldwide is only effective if you factor in starving women in
> > third
> > > world countries...but that is just my opinion with very little supporting
> > > evidence:)
>
> > > AVERAGE AMERICAN WOMAN STATS
> > > The average American woman is 5'4" tall and weighs 140 pounds.
> > > The average American model is 5'11" tall and weighs 117 pounds.
> > > Most fashion models are thinner than 98% of American women.
> > > Four out of five American women say they're dissatisfied with the way
> > they
> > > look.
> > > On any given day, almost half of the women in the United States are on a
> > > diet. ------------------------------------------
> > > AVERAGE UK WOMAN..
> > > *A:*  According to the Department for Trade and Industry, the average
> > U.K.
> > > woman is 5' 3.8" (162 centimeters) tall and weighs 147 pounds (66.7
> > > kilograms). This corresponds to a Body Mass Index of 25.2
> > kilograms/meters²,
> > > which is slightly less than the average British man's, and less than the
> > > average American female's.
> > > The average U.K. woman is tall enough for an astronaut (minimum height,
> > 4'
> > > 10.5) but falls short of the average Miss Universe winner (5' 11) and is
> > > about the same height as the shortest king (Charles I, 5' 4).
>
> > > By the way, the average U.K. male stands 5' 9.5" tall and weighs 176
> > pounds,
> > > with a Body Mass Index of 26.0 kg/m²
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Jason (Memphis)
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > > > She looks fat but not fat enough to be unattractive.  She would look
> > > > more attractive if she lost a few pounds.  That is my opinion.  I
> > > > think she is probably overweight when compared to the WORLD average
> > > > weight for females but definitely below average when compared to the
> > > > weight of the average American female especially in the South.
>
> > > > Jason
>
> > > > On Nov 15, 8:33 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > [The+Wave.jpg]
>
> > > > >  image001.jpg
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