“I do agree with Liz about the "invisibility syndrome". But, isn't it cultural to the western world?” – CB
One can generalize about any thought. I find that age alone can produce a type of ‘invisibility’ for some people. When I was a kid, I seldom knew how to relate to the old folks let alone found them easy to get to know. Ignoring them was the easiest defense mechanism. . . as ignorant as avoidance can be in the long run. On Nov 18, 7:17 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One theory is that women go through menopause in order to dump the hormones > and switch the ability to produce for focus on caretaking of grandchildren. > Sounds like evolution wants us to be social servants and makes use of us to > further survival that way... > > I do agree with Liz about the "invisibility syndrome". But, isn't it > cultural to the western world? > > I have mixed feelings about losing what beauty I have had. Sometimes it is > a relief not to maintain it. Nice to be needed for something approaching > wisdom instead of my bosom:) > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:41 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > "Because of the loss of status I feel as I age..." - Liz > > > Thanks for the stream Liz! And, this quote of yours is what I see as > > the 'crime' of our culture. Historically, age has represented wisdom, > > the opposite of a loss of status. And, as I see it, door opening, as > > much as I was programmed to do it and still do on occasion, has not > > been continued as a 'social grace' in many pockets of our culture and/ > > or has become a curiosity due to the notion of being politically > > correct. > > > On Nov 17, 1:28 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Although I agree that beauty can be more than skin deep, I've always > > thought > > > men were likely to respond first to positive visual stimulation. If, > > after > > > the attention was caught, then other factors like personality or > > > intelligence entered into the picture. I've thought about just this > > subject > > > more and more as I get older and realize that with every year that > > passes, > > > fewer and fewer men stop to open doors for me. Where once even the > > > teenagers did so, now just the men about my age and older do. I imagine > > at > > > some point that the few men who respond to me in such a fashion will be > > > doing so out of pity when I am old and unable to open the door myself. > > > > Because of the loss of status I feel as I age (and also for other > > > reasons), I am educating myself and developing myself in ways that have > > > little to nothing to do with the way I look. I don't want to be caught > > > unprepared when at last the body completely gives and the face sags. > > > > I am already starting to see wrinkles that don't go away when I stop > > > smiling, and I never feared wrinkles until I started seeing them. I > > think > > > that to become unattractive is much more problematic or even devastating > > > because it seems as though women become invisible as they lose their > > > beauty. > > > > This was sort of a rambling email. Sort of stream of consciousness... > > > > liz > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > ornamentalmind > > > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:29 PM > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for other > > > pictures > > > > What is obvious to me, perhaps because of my gender, is that in the > > > current US culture, the omnipresence of beauty industry advertising > > > along with programs on corporate tv and radio have been fairly > > > successful in producing a trance like state within too many women. > > > > The 'avarousness' found at the heart of consumerism has been quite > > > successful in supplanting a clear view of reality within the female > > > brain with one of being born in the 'original sin' of having a > > > lack...lack of beauty, lack of the right shape, color, height, length > > > nails, texture of skin etc. > > > > My entire life, while I do know how my eye appreciates specific shapes > > > and colors, I find those with inner beauty to be in fact beautiful > > > when it comes to human beings. Anyone who has this pure radiance is > > > immediately apprehended as being beautiful. > > > > Those who do not know this innate and true beauty appear to be sad and > > > have a sad life. > > > > On Nov 17, 8:39 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Google and image Tiziano Vicellio > > > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Liz Purkrabek > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > I'm not familiar with his works, but I will definitely do a Google > > > search > > > > > to > > > > > see what else he has to offer. > > > > > > liz > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > > > ornamentalmind > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:36 PM > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for other > > > > > pictures > > > > > > Liz, I've long been a big fan of Sandro Botticelli!!! > > > > > > On Nov 15, 11:32 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > See, ladies could be born beautiful back then. Now it takes so > > much > > > work > > > > > > and/or surgery... > > > > > > > LIz > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > BC > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:30 PM > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for > > other > > > > > > pictures > > > > > > > On Nov 15, 8:33 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > [The+Wave.jpg] > > > > > > > That is a nice pic; but she could stand to lose about a 20-spot. > > > > > > -BC-- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
