That would never do.  My 21 year old brain had a shot at competing in the
Special Olympics.

Liz
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From: [email protected]
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ornamentalmind
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:40 PM
To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for other
pictures


“…my original structure at 21 was available…” – CB

Please remember that you would also revert to your ‘21’ year old
brain.


On Nov 19, 10:55 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm too chicken to get lasik. Can't imagine injecting toxins into my face
> just to please someone else.  All my family sees is me and that is all
they
> will ever get:)
>
> Now, if someone figures out how to run my DNA through a product similar to
> the Star Trek teleporter  - SAFELY (and not in blob shaped chunks with
> mismatching veins/organs/third eyes) whereby my original structure at 21
was
> available...oh Hell yes, I would line up:) *sigh...*
>
> until then...que sera sera mon ami:)
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:45 PM, ornamentalmind
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Has this american society went crazy with it..." – CB
>
> > Only 'crazy' in the capitalistic sense… dispensing silicon and botox
> > can make one a 'king' of finance.
>
> > Oh, wait, this thing called capitalism clearly IS a crazy notion.
> > Never mind.
>
> > On Nov 19, 10:39 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > No, not sexist. All this primping may be just biology at work.  In my
> > girly
> > > opinion, women feel an inborn need to be attractive to attract mates
and
> > > stay that way untill unable to reproduce - menopause. We are not out
of
> > the
> > > cave yet.
>
> > > Are primates the only species that the female is more floofy? It seems
> > the
> > > other way around in birds and some others.  Think Peacock..now that is
a
> > > dandy bird! Butterflies have it right..they are both lovely.
>
> > > Has this american society went crazy with it...answer that by looking
at
> > > Cher and Dolly Parton.
>
> > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM, ornamentalmind
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > > > When it comes to the youth/beauty issue, I don't feel so controlled
by
> > > > that. Again, perhaps it is more of the induced female psyche in this
> > > > society? And, of course, the main energy of the female seems to be
> > > > being attractive and the male active. Yes, I know how this may
appear
> > > > and in no way do I mean this as a sexist comment.
>
> > > > On Nov 19, 7:42 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I feel kids are percieved to be useless time wasters by many and
many
> > > > think
> > > > > thier value to society is on hold until they grow old enough to
> > graduate
> > > > and
> > > > > enter the work force.  That is deeply disturbing but I feel truth
in
> > it.
> > > > > Ignored seems to be ignored even if it is for different reasons. I
> > think
> > > > > children have the best of it because they have youth and beauty on
> > thier
> > > > > side, in thier future, which cannot be recaptured as you
age..perhaps
> > > > that
> > > > > has truth too.
>
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Liz Purkrabek <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > It's not the same thing at all.  Being ignored because you
belong
> > to a
> > > > big
> > > > > > family or disinterested parents is not the same issue as being
> > ignored
> > > > > > incrementally  based on physical attractiveness or perceived
value
> > to
> > > > > > society as a whole.
>
> > > > > > liz
>
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > >  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> > > > Jason
> > > > > > (Memphis)
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:57 PM
> > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for
> > other
> > > > > > pictures
>
> > > > > > Aren't kids in the "invisibility syndrome" category too?   I
know
> > > > > > quite a few kids that are essentially ignored especially with
big
> > > > > > families.  It is starting to be less of an issue because many
> > couples
> > > > > > (or singles) aren't having as many children so their one or two
> > > > > > children get lots and lots of attention.
>
> > > > > > On Nov 18, 9:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > > I like old chicks.
>
> > > > > > > J.
>
> > > > > > > "I  do agree with Liz about the "invisibility syndrome". But,
> > isn't
> > > > it
> > > > > > > cultural  to the western world?" – CB
>
> > > > > > > One can generalize about any thought. I  find that age alone
can
> > > > > > > produce a type of 'invisibility' for some people.  When I was
a
> > kid,
> > > > I
> > > > > > > seldom knew how to relate to the old folks let alone  found
them
> > easy
> > > > > > > to get to know. Ignoring them was the easiest defense
 mechanism.
> > . .
> > > > > > > as ignorant as avoidance can be in the long  run.
>
> > > > > > > On Nov 18, 7:17 am, CrossBow  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>
> > One
> > > > theory
> > > > > > is that women go  through menopause in order to dump the
hormones
> > > > > > > > and switch the ability  to produce for focus on caretaking
of
> > > > > > grandchildren.
> > > > > > > > Sounds like  evolution wants us to be social servants and
makes
> > use
> > > > of
> > > > > > us to
> > > > > > > >  further survival that way...
>
> > > > > > > > I do agree with Liz about the  "invisibility syndrome".
 But,
> > isn't
> > > > it
> > > > > > > > cultural to the western  world?
>
> > > > > > > > I have mixed feelings about losing what beauty I have  had.
> > > >  Sometimes
> > > > > > it is
> > > > > > > > a relief not to maintain it.  Nice to  be needed for
something
> > > > > > approaching
> > > > > > > > wisdom instead of my  bosom:)
>
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:41 PM, ornamentalmind
>
> > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >  > "Because of the loss of status I feel as I age..." - Liz
>
> > > > > > > >  > Thanks for the stream Liz! And, this quote of yours is
what
> > I
> > > > see
> > > > > >  as
> > > > > > > > > the 'crime' of our culture. Historically, age has
represented
> > > > > >  wisdom,
> > > > > > > > > the opposite of a loss of status. And, as I see it, door
> > > >  opening, as
> > > > > > > > > much as I was programmed to do it and still do on
 occasion,
> > has
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > > been continued as a 'social grace' in many  pockets of our
> > > > culture
> > > > > > and/
> > > > > > > > > or has become a curiosity due to the  notion of being
> > politically
> > > > > > > > > correct.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Nov  17, 1:28 pm, "Liz Purkrabek"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >  > > Although I agree that beauty can be more than skin
deep,
> > I've
> > > > > >  always
> > > > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > > > men were likely to respond first  to positive visual
> > > > stimulation.
> > > > > >  If,
> > > > > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > > >  the attention was caught, then other factors like
> > personality
> > > > or
> > > > > > > > >  > intelligence entered into the picture.  I've thought
about
> > > > just
> > > > > >  this
> > > > > > > > > subject
> > > > > > > > > > more and more as I get older and  realize that with
every
> > year
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > > passes,
> > > > > > > > > > fewer  and fewer men stop to open doors for me.  Where
once
> > > > even
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >  > > teenagers did so, now just the men about my age and
older
> > do.
> > > >  I
> > > > > > > imagine
> > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > some point that the few men  who respond to me in such a
> > > > fashion
> > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > > > > doing so out of  pity when I am old and unable to open
the
> > door
> > > > > > myself.
>
> > > > > > > > >  >   Because of the loss of status I feel as I age (and
also
> > for
> > > > > >  other
> > > > > > > > > > reasons), I am educating myself and developing myself
 in
> > ways
> > > > that
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > little to nothing to do with the way I  look.  I don't
want
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > > > caught
> > > > > > > > > > unprepared when at  last the body completely gives and
the
> > face
> > > > > > sags.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I  am already starting to see wrinkles that don't go
away
> > when
> > > > I
> > > > > > stop
> > > > > > > >  > > smiling, and I never feared wrinkles until I started
> > seeing
> > > > them.
> > > > > >  I
> > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > that to become unattractive is  much more problematic or
> > even
> > > > > > > devastating
> > > > > > > > > > because it seems  as though women  become invisible as
they
> > > > lose
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > >  beauty.
>
> > > > > > > > > > This was sort of a rambling email.  Sort of stream of
> > > > > > consciousness...
>
> > > > > > > > > >  liz
>
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > >  From: [email protected]
>
> > > > > > > > > >  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > > Behalf Of
> > > > > > > > >  > ornamentalmind
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:29  PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > > > > > > > > >  Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while
looking
> > for
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > >  > > pictures
>
> > > > > > > > > > What is obvious to me, perhaps  because of my gender, is
> > that
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > current US culture, the  omnipresence of beauty industry
> > > > > > advertising
> > > > > > > > > > along with  programs on corporate tv and radio have been
> > fairly
> > > > > > > > > >  successful in producing a trance like state within too
> > many
> > > > > >  women.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The 'avarousness' found at the heart of  consumerism has
> > been
> > > > quite
> > > > > > > > > > successful in supplanting a clear  view of reality
within
> > the
> > > > > > female
> > > > > > > > > > brain with one of being  born in the 'original sin' of
> > having a
> > > > > > > > > > lack...lack of  beauty, lack of the right shape, color,
> > height,
> > > > > > length
> > > > > > > > > >  nails, texture of skin etc.
>
> > > > > > > > > > My entire life, while I  do know how my eye appreciates
> > > > specific
> > > > > > shapes
> > > > > > > > > > and colors, I  find those with inner beauty to be in
fact
> > > > beautiful
>
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