It's not the same thing at all. Being ignored because you belong to a big family or disinterested parents is not the same issue as being ignored incrementally based on physical attractiveness or perceived value to society as a whole.
liz -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason (Memphis) Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:57 PM To: Memphis Freethought Alliance Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for other pictures Aren't kids in the "invisibility syndrome" category too? I know quite a few kids that are essentially ignored especially with big families. It is starting to be less of an issue because many couples (or singles) aren't having as many children so their one or two children get lots and lots of attention. On Nov 18, 9:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I like old chicks. > > J. > > “I do agree with Liz about the "invisibility syndrome". But, isn't it > cultural to the western world?” – CB > > One can generalize about any thought. I find that age alone can > produce a type of ‘invisibility’ for some people. When I was a kid, I > seldom knew how to relate to the old folks let alone found them easy > to get to know. Ignoring them was the easiest defense mechanism. . . > as ignorant as avoidance can be in the long run. > > On Nov 18, 7:17 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> One theory is that women go through menopause in order to dump the hormones > > and switch the ability to produce for focus on caretaking of grandchildren. > > Sounds like evolution wants us to be social servants and makes use of us to > > further survival that way... > > > I do agree with Liz about the "invisibility syndrome". But, isn't it > > cultural to the western world? > > > I have mixed feelings about losing what beauty I have had. Sometimes it is > > a relief not to maintain it. Nice to be needed for something approaching > > wisdom instead of my bosom:) > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:41 PM, ornamentalmind > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > "Because of the loss of status I feel as I age..." - Liz > > > > Thanks for the stream Liz! And, this quote of yours is what I see as > > > the 'crime' of our culture. Historically, age has represented wisdom, > > > the opposite of a loss of status. And, as I see it, door opening, as > > > much as I was programmed to do it and still do on occasion, has not > > > been continued as a 'social grace' in many pockets of our culture and/ > > > or has become a curiosity due to the notion of being politically > > > correct. > > > > On Nov 17, 1:28 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Although I agree that beauty can be more than skin deep, I've always > > > thought > > > > men were likely to respond first to positive visual stimulation. If, > > > after > > > > the attention was caught, then other factors like personality or > > > > intelligence entered into the picture. I've thought about just this > > > subject > > > > more and more as I get older and realize that with every year that > > > passes, > > > > fewer and fewer men stop to open doors for me. Where once even the > > > > teenagers did so, now just the men about my age and older do. I > imagine > > > at > > > > some point that the few men who respond to me in such a fashion will be > > > > doing so out of pity when I am old and unable to open the door myself. > > > > > Because of the loss of status I feel as I age (and also for other > > > > reasons), I am educating myself and developing myself in ways that have > > > > little to nothing to do with the way I look. I don't want to be caught > > > > unprepared when at last the body completely gives and the face sags. > > > > > I am already starting to see wrinkles that don't go away when I stop > > > > smiling, and I never feared wrinkles until I started seeing them. I > > > think > > > > that to become unattractive is much more problematic or even > devastating > > > > because it seems as though women become invisible as they lose their > > > > beauty. > > > > > This was sort of a rambling email. Sort of stream of consciousness... > > > > > liz > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > > ornamentalmind > > > > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:29 PM > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for other > > > > pictures > > > > > What is obvious to me, perhaps because of my gender, is that in the > > > > current US culture, the omnipresence of beauty industry advertising > > > > along with programs on corporate tv and radio have been fairly > > > > successful in producing a trance like state within too many women. > > > > > The 'avarousness' found at the heart of consumerism has been quite > > > > successful in supplanting a clear view of reality within the female > > > > brain with one of being born in the 'original sin' of having a > > > > lack...lack of beauty, lack of the right shape, color, height, length > > > > nails, texture of skin etc. > > > > > My entire life, while I do know how my eye appreciates specific shapes > > > > and colors, I find those with inner beauty to be in fact beautiful > > > > when it comes to human beings. Anyone who has this pure radiance is > > > > immediately apprehended as being beautiful. > > > > > Those who do not know this innate and true beauty appear to be sad and > > > > have a sad life. > > > > > On Nov 17, 8:39 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Google and image Tiziano Vicellio > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Liz Purkrabek > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > I'm not familiar with his works, but I will definitely do a Google > > > > search > > > > > > to > > > > > > see what else he has to offer. > > > > > > > liz > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > > > > ornamentalmind > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:36 PM > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for > other > > > > > > pictures > > > > > > > Liz, I've long been a big fan of Sandro Botticelli!!! > > > > > > > On Nov 15, 11:32 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > See, ladies could be born beautiful back then. Now it takes so > > > much > > > > work > > > > > > > and/or surgery... > > > > > > > > LIz > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of > > > BC > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:30 PM > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for > > > other > > > > > > > pictures > > > > > > > > On Nov 15, 8:33 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > [The+Wave.jpg] > > > > > > > > That is a nice pic; but she could stand to lose about a 20-spot. > > > > > > > -BC-- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
