I'm too chicken to get lasik. Can't imagine injecting toxins into my face just to please someone else. All my family sees is me and that is all they will ever get:)
Now, if someone figures out how to run my DNA through a product similar to the Star Trek teleporter - SAFELY (and not in blob shaped chunks with mismatching veins/organs/third eyes) whereby my original structure at 21 was available...oh Hell yes, I would line up:) *sigh...* until then...que sera sera mon ami:) On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:45 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > "Has this american society went crazy with it..." – CB > > Only 'crazy' in the capitalistic sense… dispensing silicon and botox > can make one a 'king' of finance. > > Oh, wait, this thing called capitalism clearly IS a crazy notion. > Never mind. > > > On Nov 19, 10:39 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, not sexist. All this primping may be just biology at work. In my > girly > > opinion, women feel an inborn need to be attractive to attract mates and > > stay that way untill unable to reproduce - menopause. We are not out of > the > > cave yet. > > > > Are primates the only species that the female is more floofy? It seems > the > > other way around in birds and some others. Think Peacock..now that is a > > dandy bird! Butterflies have it right..they are both lovely. > > > > Has this american society went crazy with it...answer that by looking at > > Cher and Dolly Parton. > > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM, ornamentalmind > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > When it comes to the youth/beauty issue, I don't feel so controlled by > > > that. Again, perhaps it is more of the induced female psyche in this > > > society? And, of course, the main energy of the female seems to be > > > being attractive and the male active. Yes, I know how this may appear > > > and in no way do I mean this as a sexist comment. > > > > > On Nov 19, 7:42 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I feel kids are percieved to be useless time wasters by many and many > > > think > > > > thier value to society is on hold until they grow old enough to > graduate > > > and > > > > enter the work force. That is deeply disturbing but I feel truth in > it. > > > > Ignored seems to be ignored even if it is for different reasons. I > think > > > > children have the best of it because they have youth and beauty on > thier > > > > side, in thier future, which cannot be recaptured as you age..perhaps > > > that > > > > has truth too. > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Liz Purkrabek < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > It's not the same thing at all. Being ignored because you belong > to a > > > big > > > > > family or disinterested parents is not the same issue as being > ignored > > > > > incrementally based on physical attractiveness or perceived value > to > > > > > society as a whole. > > > > > > > liz > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > Jason > > > > > (Memphis) > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:57 PM > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for > other > > > > > pictures > > > > > > > Aren't kids in the "invisibility syndrome" category too? I know > > > > > quite a few kids that are essentially ignored especially with big > > > > > families. It is starting to be less of an issue because many > couples > > > > > (or singles) aren't having as many children so their one or two > > > > > children get lots and lots of attention. > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 9:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > I like old chicks. > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > "I do agree with Liz about the "invisibility syndrome". But, > isn't > > > it > > > > > > cultural to the western world?" – CB > > > > > > > > One can generalize about any thought. I find that age alone can > > > > > > produce a type of 'invisibility' for some people. When I was a > kid, > > > I > > > > > > seldom knew how to relate to the old folks let alone found them > easy > > > > > > to get to know. Ignoring them was the easiest defense mechanism. > . . > > > > > > as ignorant as avoidance can be in the long run. > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 7:17 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > One > > > theory > > > > > is that women go through menopause in order to dump the hormones > > > > > > > and switch the ability to produce for focus on caretaking of > > > > > grandchildren. > > > > > > > Sounds like evolution wants us to be social servants and makes > use > > > of > > > > > us to > > > > > > > further survival that way... > > > > > > > > > I do agree with Liz about the "invisibility syndrome". But, > isn't > > > it > > > > > > > cultural to the western world? > > > > > > > > > I have mixed feelings about losing what beauty I have had. > > > Sometimes > > > > > it is > > > > > > > a relief not to maintain it. Nice to be needed for something > > > > > approaching > > > > > > > wisdom instead of my bosom:) > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:41 PM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "Because of the loss of status I feel as I age..." - Liz > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the stream Liz! And, this quote of yours is what > I > > > see > > > > > as > > > > > > > > the 'crime' of our culture. Historically, age has represented > > > > > wisdom, > > > > > > > > the opposite of a loss of status. And, as I see it, door > > > opening, as > > > > > > > > much as I was programmed to do it and still do on occasion, > has > > > not > > > > > > > > been continued as a 'social grace' in many pockets of our > > > culture > > > > > and/ > > > > > > > > or has become a curiosity due to the notion of being > politically > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 1:28 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Although I agree that beauty can be more than skin deep, > I've > > > > > always > > > > > > > > thought > > > > > > > > > men were likely to respond first to positive visual > > > stimulation. > > > > > If, > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > the attention was caught, then other factors like > personality > > > or > > > > > > > > > intelligence entered into the picture. I've thought about > > > just > > > > > this > > > > > > > > subject > > > > > > > > > more and more as I get older and realize that with every > year > > > that > > > > > > > > passes, > > > > > > > > > fewer and fewer men stop to open doors for me. Where once > > > even > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > teenagers did so, now just the men about my age and older > do. > > > I > > > > > > imagine > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > some point that the few men who respond to me in such a > > > fashion > > > > > will be > > > > > > > > > doing so out of pity when I am old and unable to open the > door > > > > > myself. > > > > > > > > > > > Because of the loss of status I feel as I age (and also > for > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > reasons), I am educating myself and developing myself in > ways > > > that > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > little to nothing to do with the way I look. I don't want > to > > > be > > > > > caught > > > > > > > > > unprepared when at last the body completely gives and the > face > > > > > sags. > > > > > > > > > > > I am already starting to see wrinkles that don't go away > when > > > I > > > > > stop > > > > > > > > > smiling, and I never feared wrinkles until I started > seeing > > > them. > > > > > I > > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > that to become unattractive is much more problematic or > even > > > > > > devastating > > > > > > > > > because it seems as though women become invisible as they > > > lose > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > beauty. > > > > > > > > > > > This was sort of a rambling email. Sort of stream of > > > > > consciousness... > > > > > > > > > > > liz > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > > > > > > ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:29 PM > > > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking > for > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > pictures > > > > > > > > > > > What is obvious to me, perhaps because of my gender, is > that > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > current US culture, the omnipresence of beauty industry > > > > > advertising > > > > > > > > > along with programs on corporate tv and radio have been > fairly > > > > > > > > > successful in producing a trance like state within too > many > > > > > women. > > > > > > > > > > > The 'avarousness' found at the heart of consumerism has > been > > > quite > > > > > > > > > successful in supplanting a clear view of reality within > the > > > > > female > > > > > > > > > brain with one of being born in the 'original sin' of > having a > > > > > > > > > lack...lack of beauty, lack of the right shape, color, > height, > > > > > length > > > > > > > > > nails, texture of skin etc. > > > > > > > > > > > My entire life, while I do know how my eye appreciates > > > specific > > > > > shapes > > > > > > > > > and colors, I find those with inner beauty to be in fact > > > beautiful > > > > > > > > > when it comes to human beings. Anyone who has this pure > > > radiance > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > immediately apprehended as being beautiful. > > > > > > > > > > > Those who do not know this innate and true beauty appear > to be > > > sad > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > have a sad life. > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 8:39 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Google and image Tiziano Vicellio > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Liz Purkrabek > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not familiar with his works, but I will definitely > do > > > a > > > > > Google > > > > > > > > > search > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > see what else he has to offer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > > > > Behalf > > > > > Of > > > > > > > > > > > ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while > looking > > > for > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > pictures > > > > > > > > > > > > > Liz, I've long been a big fan of Sandro Botticelli!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 15, 11:32 am, "Liz Purkrabek" < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > See, ladies could be born beautiful back then. Now > it > > > > > takes > > > > > so > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or surgery... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LIz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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