Hey Joe,

You are correct. EPA mandates r-12 conversions but does not state anything 
about r-134 conversions.

Using HC is very common in europe.

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> I've been under the impression that where otherwise legal you can meet 
> the EPA standard by first converting an R-12 system to 134a and then 
> convert to HC. In other words & for practical purposes, empty the 
> system, install 134 fittings, et voila. Not so? I'm sure I've heard 
> that argued & don't see anything in the text that would squash that 
> interpretation. Well, I'll admit that the shortcut 'conversion' might 
> kinda fly in the face of it, but so what...? 
> 
> joe 
> 
> On 8/8/05, Dave M. wrote: 
> > Despite 'only' some 17 states making it illegal, it's illegal to use 
> > any flammable refrigerant in a motor vehicle in the United States, if 
> > that motor vehicle's AC system originally contained R-12. (Don't ask 
> > me why they'll allow it to replace R-134a in the 33 other states, if 
> > the car originally had 134a - seems bizarre to me.) That includes 
> > Duracool, btw. But hey, don't take my word for it... read it here as 
> > part of the EPA test study guide: 
> > 
> > http://www.imaca.org/sg-13.htm#flammable 
> 
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