Little hands and a little 8mm wrench. You are going to have to unbolt it to change the cable anyhow. If the cable is trashed like mine was (wires hanging out) you won't get it clear shut until you take the cable loose. Taking the cable loose is a good job for a skilled 10-12 yr old kid.
At 07:03 PM 7/29/2008, you wrote: >Well I could not get the roof to go back far enough to get the chrome >rails off. I assume you are talking about the ones on the side? I was >able to get the headliner out on the sunroof part, then I could get a >good enough grip on it to get it just about closed. Its covering the >hole, but not pushed up in the back. Cant get it to go any futher. I >dont see how to get to where the cable is unless you take the whole >headliner down. Is this what you all are taking about? If so, how do >you get it down at least enough to get to whatever needs to be got to. > >Loren Faeth wrote: > > Correct When I bought my 300D (124) the PO had the sunroof "fixed." > > I opened it on the drive home and when i went to close it, I had > > the same symptoms you describe. > > > > The cable was bad, and looped in the space between the roof and > the headliner. > > > > Run it back. Take off the chrome rails, remove the SR headliner > > forward and up through the roof. > > Then put the rails back if you plant to drive it before fixing. > > Or slide the roof forward and up with manual assist. It may be > > easier if you unbolt the cable mount at the back of the roof when you > > get it close to closed, or maybe not. > > > > The "fix" had involved prying the roof back up into place with > > screwdrivers and ruining the paint around the sunroof. The touchop > > paint I ordered from Rusty covered it pretty well. I don't notice > > the paint chips anymore. At least your roof has not been "fixed" yet. > > > > > > At 04:39 PM 7/29/2008, you wrote: > >> I assume you are talking about only the headliner on the sunroof, not > >> the rest of it. I will give that a try. So if you slide it all the way > >> back, you can then unscrew the chrome front piece? and remove it from > >> the top? > >> > >> Peter Frederick wrote: > >>> I would suggest opening the roof, removing the chrome rails, > >>> unclipping the headliner, and then pulling the headliner out through > >>> the opening. This will let you see the operating bits including the > >>> lift angles and translation bridge where the cable is attached. You > >>> may just have a loose cable clamp (if one side is unscrewed, it will > >>> pull back but going forward the cable will just snake sideways. > >>> > >>> You can then operate the switch while manually moving the roof > >>> forward, and push it up flush fairly easily. > >>> > >>> Main point of failure is the lift angles, they snap and will cause > >>> the roof to get sideways and stick. Next most common failure is the > >>> cable coming loose, I think. > >>> > >>> You can get the headliner down through the opening, but you are quite > >>> likely to bend it beyond repair that way. > >>> > >>> Peter > >>> > >>> On Jul 29, 2008, at 4:00I PM, R A Bennell wrote: > >>> > >>>> Would that work if the cable is not attached? > >>>> > >>>> Randy > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:18 PM > >>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] how to get sunroof closed when its broke > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Is there a manual S/R tool to close the roof like in the older models? > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> This 124 I just picked up has a broken sunroof. Motor runs but > >>>>> cable is > >>>>> broke I guess. It will move back fine, but when moving forward, > >>>>> you can > >>>>> hear the cable loose in there. If you move it forward a little > >>>>> bit at a > >>>>> time with the switch and manually move the roof I can get it to > >>>>> within > >>>>> about an inch of closed. Although I have not messed with it much > >>>>> I cant > >>>>> get it any further as of yet. Anybody got any ideas how to get it > >>>>> closed? I want to get this done ASAP before it rains or something. > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Kaleb C. 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Striplin/Claremore, OK > >> 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, > >> 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > >> 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, > >> 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > Loren Faeth > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1574 - Release Date: > 7/25/2008 4:27 PM > > > > > > > >-- >Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, > 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb >http://www.okiebenz.com > >_______________________________________ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
