OK, trying to wrap my head around this. So if the diesel is supposed to have the cable in at closed throttle and out at open, and the gasser is opposite, since this is a gas transmission really, should it work like the gas ones do? I wouldnt think the tranny would care if it was behind a gas engine or a diesel, it would still operate the same as it was designed I guess. Wonder why they made them backward though between gas and diesel. Im going ot have to look at my other 190D, I swear it operates the same as the gas ones do.
Going to put some lucas in it today and see if I can work it loose. If not, valve body is next Peter Frederick wrote: > On the 603 in a W124, the cable is full OUT at closed "throttle", > retracts fully into the housing at full "throttle", the reverse of > the gassers, which are all the way into the housing at closed > throttle and all the way out at full throttle. > > However, I still agree you have a valve body problem, it's fairly > obvious either the governor isn't supplying adequate pressure change > to move the appropriate shift valve of the valve itself is > defective. No upshift is a typical MB tranny failure, after all. > > There is a plate between the valve body and transmission that serves > as a seal AND as a check ball retainer. Last diagram I saw had 27 > check balls in there, with four or five different sizes, so I'd be > careful to keep that valve body correclty oriented at ALL times, just > to be sure! > > Peter > > On Sep 13, 2008, at 10:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> Every one I have seen its loose at closed throttle, and tightens at >> full. Now I t hink the adjustment is backwards but the actual working >> is the same. >> >> The modulator and vacuum stuff wouldnt have anything to do with it not >> upshifting would it? Would not think so. I did swap the diesel >> modulator over in place of the gasser version (green to red). >> >> Peter Frederick wrote: >>> Hmmm, is that 602 cable like the 603? All the way out when the >>> throttle is closed, goes back into the housing as the throttle >>> opens? Backwards from the gassers. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Sep 13, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >>> >>>> The cable is fine as near as I can tell, though it is different >>>> at the >>>> top end than the one out of the diesel. The diesel one is round on >>>> the >>>> end, fits in a round hole and is held in with a c clip. The one on >>>> the >>>> 2.6 and other gas cars is simply a square plastic piece that slides >>>> and >>>> locks in a square hole on the bracket. I have it to where its not >>>> exactly fitting tight and locked in like it should but does stay >>>> put and >>>> fits on the ball like it should with no slack. Also, pulling the >>>> cable >>>> out and releasing it, it goes back like its hooked up at the tranny >>>> end >>>> like it should. >>>> >>>> Jim Cathey wrote: >>>>>> Can I pull the valve body out of the old tranny and put it in >>>>>> this one? >>>>> Probably. >>>>> >>>>>> How hard is it to pull the valve body? >>>>> About 10 minutes more than changing the oil. >>>>> >>>>>> Kickdown cable unplugged? You mean the wire to the kickdown >>>>>> solenoid? I have it unplugged right now, does same thing plugged >>>>>> in. >>>>> No, the cable on the side that adjusts shift points. Mine >>>>> had one, I managed to break it off when removing the tranny. >>>>> The electrical solenoid is different. >>>>> >>>>> -- Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1670 - Release Date: >>>>> 9/13/2008 12:50 PM >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK >>>> 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, >>>> 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, >>>> 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, >>>> 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --- >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1670 - Release Date: >>> 9/13/2008 12:50 PM >>> >> -- >> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK >> 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, >> 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, >> 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, >> 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1670 - Release Date: 9/13/2008 > 12:50 PM > -- Kaleb C. 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