if he were honest, obama would have honored his "5 days for the public and congress to study a bill" before a vote.
but the first chance he got to show us his "change" he did exactly what GWB did by ramming a huge spending bill down the throats of congress for them to sign unread. this really stinks of some kind of nasty fix being in. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Tom Hargrave <tharg...@hiwaay.net> wrote: > Gary, > > Oh, I got your point and I remember the Government making statements to > effect that "if we let Nam fall, the Communist will ......." We know they > were wrong. And as far as post 911 is concerned, we may never know. I do > know that politicians never get credit for averting disaster! > > > My economic comments are not been based on our wonderful Government's > propaganda, they are based on my own beliefs. > > > Our monetary system works because: > > 1. The dollar is free flowing through the system. > > 2. We believe that the worn out pieces of paper we carry around with us > have > some value. Also, the person we trade the piece of paper to also believes > it > has some value. > > > And if we had let the major banks fail: > > Let the major banks fail and item 1 stops - banks have to move money and > the > major banks are the major cash movers in this country. Letting them fail > would be like taking out the main water mains feeding Atlanta or letting > Lake Laneer dry up (it almost did, right?). Banks fund everything from the > seed farmers need to plant in the spring to the food you buy at the grocery > store. > > If this were to happen the Gov would have to react by printing money to > finance everything - lots & lots of money - far more than they printed for > the bailout. And since our dollar has no backing except for faith (item 2), > once excessive printing crossed a critical point other counties would loose > faith in the American dollar. Then the value of the Dollar would free fall > & > the cost of everything would go up just as sharply. > > Think this is all just BS? Study your history - the exact same scenario has > played itself out over & over again in other countries. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Gary Hurst > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:43 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT banned lite, Better not get hurt in war > > i guess i assume too much thinking you'd grasp my point. > > it would seem that hysterical gov't propaganda is generally a lie. nothing > would happen if we gave up vietnam. we don't really need to be in a state > of lock down after 9/11 and the a-rabs really aren't targeting your pig > farm > in arkansas for terrorist attack. > > so unless we give away this money in the next hour all civilization on > earth > will instantly and permanently end? > > or maybe we have once again been played for the chumps we are? > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Tom Hargrave <tharg...@hiwaay.net> wrote: > > > BZZT - we did! > > > > And its not the same, Nam is another country. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > www.kegkits.com > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > > On Behalf Of Gary Hurst > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:31 AM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT banned lite, Better not get hurt in war > > > > the same thing that would happen if we let vietnam fall to the commies? > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Tom Hargrave <tharg...@hiwaay.net> > wrote: > > > > > Possibly, possibly not, but what would have happened to our economy and > > the > > > spending value of YOUR DOLLAR if they had been allowed to fail? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tom Hargrave > > > www.kegkits.com > > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > > > On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:31 PM > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT banned lite, Better not get hurt in war > > > > > > I keep asking myself if the bonuses would have been paid -- or been > > > obligated -- had AIG been allowed to go into bankruptcy or even shut > > down. > > > I > > > think I know the answer, and that answer should determine what happens > > > under > > > what was essentially bankruptcy reorganization, with the government > > buying > > > and administering the assets. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Peter Frederick > > > <psf...@earthlink.net>wrote: > > > > > > > I love the argument that these bonuses were promised "by contract" -- > > > what > > > > about the fact that the company had to be rescued by the US > government? > > > I, > > > > personally, would have reduced all salaries at all institutions > taking > > > the > > > > money, either directly or as payment of contracts, to US GS rates as > a > > > > condition of bailing them out. 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