"and it costs MS every time you call!"

Plus you are putting Rupees into the pockets of very hard working support techs.

-Dave Walton

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Loren Faeth <lfa...@leadingchange.com> wrote:
> Be careful with the workarounds.  I used one on xp and Server 2003 for
> years.  THen one day all those machines had a "patch" installed that "fixed"
> some problem, and the result was that all those machines were unusable until
> reloaded and activated.  It was a loop: login screen, then a screen that
> says windows was not activated.  If you tried to activate, you gat a screen
> that says windows is already activated and logs you out, to try the process
> again.
>
> MS has gotten much more lackadaisical about activation.  CALL in, force the
> robot to get you a real person, and activate.  it works, and it costs MS
> every time you call!
>
> At 12:19 PM 5/22/2009, you wrote:
>>
>> I might try that when I get to it.  I found a web site with a workaround
>> by putting some stuff in the registry that spoofs it, could try that too.
>>
>> --R
>>
>> Tim C. wrote:
>>>
>>> You usetacould authenticate XP via telephone, I assume you still can; you
>>> should be presented a popup when it comes time (first full boot IIRC).  HDD
>>> dupe will probably not do what you want.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Tim
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:32 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:  Retrospect backup problem
>>>
>>> A sorta related question -- I want to set up a dedicated machine in my
>>> shop to run my CNC machine,  I can bodge one up using some old stuff I have
>>> around.  The control software I use runs on XP.  I have XP on a disk.  I
>>> vaguely recall in various reinstalls that XP wants to connect to the network
>>> to get verified and install updates and make it so it is not being used
>>> twice and all that stuff.  Is there an easy way to just load it and make it
>>> work without doing all that?  Or make an SP2 XP disk to load up and forget
>>> all the other stuff it wants to do?  I seem to recall that might be doable,
>>> but I forget how to do it.
>>>
>>> I suppose I could just make a backup image of my boot hard drive on
>>> another one to put into that machine?
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>> Loren Faeth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like typical MS.  I don't have a solution to this problem  In the
>>>> Retrospect when you are making the disaster recovery cd, will it take your
>>>> product key?
>>>>
>>>> if not, then this is time consuming, but the only shot I can think of:
>>>>  in the "install programs control panel:
>>>> Remove SP3
>>>> Restart twice with full shutdown  (this clears the removed files)
>>>> Now you will have xp SP2  ( I am not sure if this breaks any other
>>>> patches)
>>>>
>>>> Try the retrospect using the WinXP key you have
>>>> You may have to make an additional backup of the current state first,
>>>> before making the disaster recovery CD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 11:47 AM 5/19/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I set up an external HD and loaded a Retrospect backup set of this
>>>>> computers HD on it.  When I tried to make a "disaster recovery" CD using
>>>>> Retrospects program it said I needed the WinXP product key.
>>>>> When I loaded the WinXP disk in order to be sure the product key
>>>>> worked, WinXP refused to go beyond the first couple of screens because it
>>>>> said that the version on the computer was a later version than that on the
>>>>> WinXP disc.  The WinXP disc is Service Pack 2, and since I initially used
>>>>> this disc to load WinXP, Microsoft has added WinXP Service Pack 3 to the
>>>>> computer via their periodic updates.
>>>>> I can probably check the Product Key by letting the WinXP Service Pack
>>>>> 2 boot the computer just like I was going to replace the WinXP service 
>>>>> pack
>>>>> 3 program with the WinXP service pack 2 program on the disk, but if the
>>>>> WinXP service pack 3 program loaded on the computer rejects the Product 
>>>>> Key
>>>>> from the WinXP service pack 2 which will be in Retrospects Disaster 
>>>>> Recovery
>>>>> CD, I've lost a lot of data.
>>>>>
>>>>> Simple, isn't it?  (o:]  It's enough to make me buy a MacIntosh and
>>>>> load Linux on it which I might do after I get the data on this old PC
>>>>> secured.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Gerry
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