and what classification do you think International gave to the Scout?  SUV ?
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:01:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay


At 02:50 AM 10/24/2005, you wrote:
>I get the feeling someone just doesn't understand that International never 
>used a diesel engine in their light trucks.

Uh, nobody was talking about the trucks.  the subject was scouts, and the 
Nissan Diesel WAS available in Scouts.  There were no Diesel options in the 
light trucks, because IH killed them BEFORE the 74 "gas Shortage"

>The 304 and 345 were AMC supplied V8's and were not converted diesels

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT! Wrong!  266 and 304 are IH engines.  The 345 and the 
392 are big block IH engines.  The 392 4 barrel is a powerful torquey 
engine.  There was an amc engine used for a year or two in Scouts, when IH 
couldn't make enough engines, or couldn't meet smog requirements.  I think 
it was a 302? Any AMC fans out there?

NO IH gas engine shares a block with Diesels, except maybe in 
tractors.  The v-8 diesels (powerstroke)  have a different block

The DT-466 series share a block with the tractors.  This is known as the 
German engine, as the series of 6 cyl engines were designed at an IH 
facility in Germany.

>
>69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
>72 350SL   108,000 Miles
>2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
>1999 Mazda Miata
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:38:05 -0500
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
>
>
>BZZZZZZZZT   WRONG!
>
> >From   http://www.scoutconnection.com/  FAQ section:
>
>8. When did International offer a diesel-powered Scout?
>1976 was the first year for a diesel-powered Scout. International used the
>Nissan SD-33 diesel engine for fuel economy.
>
>Complaints of not enough power prompted International to replace the SD-33
>with the SD-33T (Turbocharged) diesel engine in 1980. The diesel-powered
>Scouts were very popular with their fuel-saving economy of 20 mpg city and
>30 mpg highway.
>End Quote
>
>The Nissan diesel was available for many years.  Diesel Scouts are getting
>rare because of the high repair costs, combined with diesel
>ignorance.  Most of the remaining Diesels have been converted to gas 345
>v-8.  One of the nice things about IH Scouts and pickups is that any
>drivetrain option can be converted to any other drivetrain option with
>factory parts.  A 2wd 304 auto pickup can be converted to a 392 4barrel, 4
>speed 4wd but unbolting and bolting on the new parts.
>
>Unfortunately, the Nissan was detuned for reliability and the turbo was
>detuned also.  They were slow.  They are about like driving a 123 240D
>auto, and are probably even slower than that.  The engine can be tuned for
>more power  They are, like a 240D, good dependable engines as stock.  As
>the HP goes up the durability decreases.
>
>International's own diesel engines were too heavy for automotive use, so
>they bought the Nissan diesels to catch the growing popularity of Diesels
>following the 74  "oil shortage."
>
>For more information, the ultimate source is www.scoutconnection.com
>
>
>
>At 03:19 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote:
> >Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the
> >Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8.
> >There were no diesels
> >
> >69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
> >72 350SL   108,000 Miles
> >2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
> >1999 Mazda Miata
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700
> >Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
> >
> >
> >Heard of these but never seen one for sale before.  Doesn't look bad
> >for the price.
> >
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4582983178
> >
> >Alex Chamberlain
> >'87 300D Turbo
> >
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