Yea.  It does definitly create feelings in others.  Most of the time as an
admistrator I just sit back and watch.  It is definitly a game to be played
carefully.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> Definitely inciting.  This warranted a very long thread on Banned with the
> predictable outcome.
>
> --R
>
>
> Peter Hertzing wrote:
>
>> I'll provide some incite.  I am a hospital administrator.  I work on the
>> physician practice side.  In our Emergency room 65% of ER visitors have a
>> Cat Scan.  Is it necessary - really no.  It is medicine dictated by
>> Lawyers.  The ER doc has to order a CT cause if the patient feels bad in
>> 24
>> hours, instead of returning to our ER they go the the other hospitals ER,
>> and get a CT cause if the symptoms have not dissipated in 24 hours, this
>> is
>> the standard of care.  This may happen on 1/2 of 1 percent of the cases,
>> but
>> then the patient didn't get the "standard of treatment" at our hospital
>> and
>> sues.  Even if the case is dismissed costs us 10K just the have the
>> attorney
>> write a couple of letters.  That's whats wrong with our medical system and
>> that is what drives the costs up through the roof.  I hope Donald will
>> provide some insight.  I know he defends hospitals on cases like this.
>> Often we are forced to settle out of court just to keep away from the
>> expense of a trial.  While I don't know the figures, I suspect that if we
>> removed all insurance companies, both malpractice and health ins.  we
>> could
>> all have resonably priced access to healthcare.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:05 PM, R A Bennell <b...@mts.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I don't know - DIY seems a bit iffy on things like this.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>>> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Mountain Man
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:34 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] worst of its over
>>>
>>>
>>> --R wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> A friend (doctor no less) had a similar experience a coupla months ago a
>>>>
>>>>
>>> day
>>>
>>>
>>>> or two after flying, swelling in the leg, soreness.  Got to the ER and
>>>>
>>>>
>>> they
>>>
>>>
>>>> found DVT, a day or so of treatment fixed him up.  Not to be trifled
>>>>
>>>>
>>> with.
>>>
>>> All these stories about how wonderful the medical practitioners are
>>> that are all around us.
>>> You know - you follow their lead, hook, line, and sinker as they say.
>>> A converse of what is being said *could* also be true - but there is
>>> no court of inquiry alllowed - we all merely follow one train of
>>> thought to say - "...the doc saved my life..."
>>>
>>> I don't have a solution to this - but I do recognize it as a dilemma
>>> in our culture today.
>>> Not dis-similar to the auto mechanic "...you need ball joints or this
>>> car could be in the ditch 5 miles down the road..."  Again, no court
>>> of inquiry is usually sought - i.e. second opinion.
>>>
>>> I am glad for all the "success" stories of near collapse with which we
>>> are comforting each other - but it seems there may be alternatives
>>> that could be found? alternative stories to be told.  These procedures
>>> are not offered at insignificant cost - these are procedures I will
>>> never avail myself to - I don't have that sort of means, really.
>>>
>>> As long as we are all glad the Curt is back on his feet, although
>>> dizzy - we could entertain a rational mind game back and forth to see
>>> what else could be said about alternatives? or whatever.
>>> mao
>>>
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