The links I posted earlier today, from the mobiloil website, where they refused 
to answer a point blank question.


On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:10 +0000, pm7...@comcast.net wrote:
> Source of hints? 
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Allan Streib" <str...@cs.indiana.edu> 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 1:25:10 PM 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: $3.99 Mobil One 
> 
> The reason I ask is that there are a lot of hints (certainly no denials
> from Mobil) that M1 is no longer the same "true" (Group IV) synthetic
> base that it used to be. If that's the case, why not buy Valvoline (or
> any other Group III synthetic) at half the price?? 
> 
> Allan 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 08:58 -0800, "Alex Chamberlain"
> <apchamberl...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Allan Streib <str...@cs.indiana.edu> 
> > wrote: 
> > > So anyone know anything about the Valvoline "super blue" synthetic 
> > > diesel-rated 5W-40? 
> > 
> > Marshall (RIP) always said that the Valvoline synthetics were not 
> > "true" synthetics and thus not worth the premium over dinosaur juice. 
> > I'm not sure which of their several products he was referring to, 
> > though. FWIW (not much), I used to have an Audi 4000CS Quattro. 
> > Bought it at 180K mi or so from the original owner, who said he'd used 
> > Valvoline synthetic in the silver bottle since day 1. Since the car 
> > seemed happy with it, I kept it up. I took off the valve cover a few 
> > years later to change the gasket, and was struck by the fact that the 
> > cam lobes were clean enough to eat off of---absolutely no visible 
> > evidence of wear. 
> > 
> > Alex 
> > 
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