Thanks Peter - if you're seeing similar behavior with you OM606 then I feel 
better.  I've got plenty of other parts I need to change, don't need to add to 
the list...

-Max




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From: Peter Frederick <psf...@earthlink.net>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 11:20:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 with OM606 - how long to reach operating temp?

Not only do they warm up slowly, but if you get stuck sitting somewhere (like 
for a slow train crossing) in bitter cold weather, they will cool off while you 
are stopped!

A bad t-stat usually shows up as an engine that never gets up to operating temp 
in the winter (80C).  My first 300D had a bad one, ran fine in the summer, but 
once fall got here, the temp would never get up to 80.

Peter


-----Original Message-----
>From: Max Dillon <meadedil...@bellsouth.net>
>Sent: Feb 8, 2011 9:55 AM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 with OM606 - how long to reach operating temp?
>
>As in coolant circulating pump?  Yes.  My question arises due to the 
>difference 

>in engine temperature (gauge) behavior, not in how quickly heat is produced in 
>the passenger compartment.
>
>I'm suspicious of my t-stat, but I'd like confirmation from some other owners 
>that long warm-up compared to a OM603 turbo is normal.
>
>-Max
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Gerry Archer <arche...@embarqmail.com>
>To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:11:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 with OM606 - how long to reach operating temp?
>
>Does it have an auxiliary pump like a 123?
>Gerry
>--------------------------------------------
>From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com>
>>I know the OM603 is slower to warm up than the iron head Diesels.  It is 
>>because the engine is more thermally efficient.  It might make sense that 
>>the 606 takes a little longer.  But those with 606s are in a better 
>>position to answer.  I've never driven one.
>>
>> x
>>
>>
>>>Dieselvolk,
>>>
>>>I've been driving my '95 E300 quite a bit now that I've got most of the 
>>>big
>>>issues sorted out, but it really seems to take a long time to warm up 
>>>(compared
>>>to my '87 300TD for instance).  I'd like to know if anyone else with an 
>>>E300 (or
>>>a normally aspirated OM606) also had noticed that these non-turbo engines 
>>>need
>>>more time, for instance about ten minutes of driving, to get up to 80+ 
>>>degrees
>>>C.  When I had my '84 190D, I noticed that it also took longer than my 
>>>'87, and
>>>longer than my '85 300TD which had an OM617 non-turbo engine, so maybe 
>>>with each
>>>generation of OM60x engines in non-turbo form, they need more and more 
>>>time to
>>>warm up?
>>>
>>>Background: T-stat is new within last 12 months, tested stove-top for 
>>>opening
>>>and closing prior to installation, has proper MB-spec coolant with the 
>>>t-stat
>>>installation.
>>>
>>>Very respectfully,
>>>/s/
>>>Max Dillon
>>>'87 300TD 333k miles
>>>'95 E300 278k miles
>>>'73 Balboa 20
>>>Charleston SC
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