although accurate, not very convenient on a regular basis! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you should not really concern your self with 1/2 qt of oil the way to accurately check oil is to a change oil using 8 qt of oil....and filter crank the engine with the dist coil wire off and placed nest to a ground point to get the oil pumped up in to the filter and tensioners maybe 15 or so sec. replace coil wire start engine and check for leaks because you added 8 qts. of oil you know exactly what is in the engine collins 1985 500 sec In a message dated 11/15/2005 6:16:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SO, the GOAL OF THE DIPSTICK is that when it reads halfway between min and max AFTER FOLLOWING MB's INSTRUCTIONS, you will indeed have the correct quantity of oil in the engine. I imagine that Marshall would not insist on the BCM without having years of experience behind him on this...so I must ask. Marshall, are you saying that if my eninge calls for 8 quarts and by Divine Revelation I know there are exactly 8 quarts of M1 in the engine AND I follow the procedure above, the reading on the dipstick will read low? And if I top it off so that the dipstick reads dead center, I have now 8+ quarts of M1? I know you have said that you don't know why this is, it just is. Any elaboration would be appreciated, because I can't see how it makes sense either. If anything, would not M1 return to the crankcase MORE QUICKLY than dino oil causing the dipstick, if anything, to READ HIGHER when following the above instructions. This just doesn't make sense to me. My own experience with M1 in the SD is that it reads the same following the MB instructions as when using the BCM. Which is sort of what lead me to this e-mail...the only way that can be the case is that M1 does indeed, after a few minutes, LARGELY flow back into the crankcase...giving nearly the same reading at 2 minutes as at 8 hours. Additionally, if we were saying that the BCM applies only to some obscure oil, that might make sense, but it's M1...MB's oil of choice...how can they not know how to use a dipstick? It seems a bit absurd. Now, the memo is 10 years old, maybe a new one has superceded it...maybe M1 has changed since then...don't know. _______________________________________ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 209K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 16 03:15:34 2005 Received: from web30013.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.201.216]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EcDll-0003dw-Ta for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:15:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 28332 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2005 03:15:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pSNqsBmDPWB1/o+quB7Y2jSZAVTH/smJxcvStDk/U/wZi6KNMU3UQhHV+MnZZ+gvtYIJAjENx1M592hdJ7t1CoTZQOnCZnTWZdWvB4TxVEgOpyOGWdBpDuFYPnwWm+Ju2s/ctg/UUuZyiCVlY1N433bKwdqmhJuhC/S+5PmzbHk= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [69.81.22.213] by web30013.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:15:29 PST Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:15:29 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Booth Cold Method (BCM) Rationale X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:15:34 -0000 yep, I know that midway is ideal and I did catch the paragraph you mention. Topping off to full is bad. "They have finally insured this by eliminating the dipstick and giving the owner NO clue as to oil level until the "add oil" warning is displayed." I'd rather rely on the Booth Method than an idiot light. It IS strange, though, that I get the same reading at 2 minutes as I do at 8 hours (on the SD)...I'll pay a little closer attention to this in the coming weeks and see if I can confirm it. Thanks again, Chris Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mercedes specifies in MANY places that the optimum oil level is between a pt and a qt below the MAX mark (they say it lots of different way, but that's the bottom line). When the oil level increases much over the mid level, oil consumption increases (that's been true of every Mercedes I've owned for more than 40 years). In TSB 00/57A (and other Mercedes procedural outlines) owners are cautioned to NOT frequently top up the oil level but to wait until the oil reaches the ADD mark. They have finally insured this by eliminating the dipstick and giving the owner NO clue as to oil level until the "add oil" warning is displayed. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi _______________________________________ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 209K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 16 03:28:45 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.206]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EcDyX-00051K-F5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:28:45 +0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so1597953wra for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:28:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LsKXLUhUEHmBwqD17FzDAhaIJUy8vQ2GK2Y3jhF2J5YPFHOwXvQTwxVePPP9diYL9n7ue34UnawgRNvXacljMyiN/UsVnXWlT9rRtPpKri6a8ldxfTKIMRTDfR6diUpNIEV2G0EE98t6Ou9Zs6hFtJnQHcdMSGYKD4YsfPn/GL8= Received: by 10.54.91.3 with SMTP id o3mr3833534wrb; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.133.5 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:28:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:28:40 +0000 From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Booth Cold Method (BCM) Rationale X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:28:45 -0000 I can personally attest to the truth of this statement! On 11/16/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When the oil level increases much over the mid > level, oil consumption increases -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
