Loren, Thanks for the historical precedent. No wonder they're making so much money...not really selling us fuel! Like putting saw dust in dog food. I'm gonna try the local BP per Dr. Booth's rec. Of course, BP fuel in W. MO and BP fuel in W. PA may be TOTALLY different... Chris
Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have gotten at least 2 loads of bad fuel post Katrina. One was in the truck with the IH DT466. It had a new filter, and I got a few gallons at a small town coop to last until I could get to a truck stop and cheaper fuel. Ended up limping to a NAPA, changed the main filter (again) and that cured it. I think I only put 5 gal in the 50 gal tank. The other time was last weekend. Started the SDL and it died immediately. It had run fine the day before when i parked it. Cranked and no fire. Cracked a line, and NO fuel. Went to town and bought fuel filters. Changed the primary and blew back into the tank. Ran fine. Still running fine. In each case, I am suspecting algae, but no proof. I didn't tear either filter apart. This is not counting the poor performance. There are currently noticeable differences in fuel quality and mileage. When the price goes up, they dump water and alcohol or other emulsifier in the tanks to stretch the supply. It happens to both gasoline and Diesel. Same thing happened in 1974/75. I remember tanking up my R75/5 with very expensive premium at a Standard station in Hannibal, MO. Almost immediately, the engine lost so much power I thought something was wrong. Finally decided it was just poor gasoline. At 04:56 PM 11/17/2005, you wrote: >crappy post Katria fuel and funky odo have been my pet theories as to why >my mpgs have gone down recently too (on the SD). Not cold enough in the >last couple months for THAT (coldness) to have effected it. > > Also, the TD (haven't had it long enough to really get a feel for > it), does not seem to get great mpg's...makes me think of more crappy fuel... > > Chris _______________________________________ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 209K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 18 14:24:01 2005 Received: from web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.68]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ed79k-0000KC-W5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:24:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 44624 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2005 14:23:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Vos95bTNYkTJ2d7Pl4XZZxYJHlXGZvCHecY/XEE5sXwJQqzv89NYj867XXB1XBHBNwywLN9zVS8W3rxUrxt3/pZT/TVq/dpca7JggMYR/o9JcZhIXtfhCRFc1Vvd4hbfjF1p3+3w0wg4ZBlMi/lXGQD297iaysFmJkv7+eIy64A= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [66.140.70.226] by web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:23:57 PST Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:23:57 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle insanity! Part II (Part I solved) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:24:04 -0000 that doesn't sound good - what is it? Related news - idle has been adjusted to what appears about 850-900 on the tach (not totally reliable). No stalling in reverse this morning and it was chilly. So THAT is solved. The rhythmic revving, unfortunately, is still there. It's really weird - you cannot see the throttle linkage more AT ALL while it is rhytmically revving. disconnected the linkage to the IP (per Marshall's suggestion) and that had no effect. Engine mounts are about 1 year old and are very solid. Again, this ONLY happens in park, neutral and drive while coasting when the engine is WARM. Doesn't happen cold and doesn;t happen hot (when I say hot, being at 80 for 5 minutes isn't hot...I mean after 10 minutes or so of highway driving), but once it goes away, it's gone unitl; the next time the car is started FROM COLD. now that the idle is up to NO STALL mode...PERHAPS IT'S TIME TO REDO THE RACK DAMPER BOLT, being sure not to turn it a hair further than necessary...thoughts? Chris "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: maybe you have a low cylinder Christopher McCann wrote: > Timing chain is brand new. > > Damper bolt is new and the new style. Also, I don't have any lope (know > what that is...that's why I got the new bolt)...this is a rhythmic > revving...like pushing the accelerator ever so slightly - no engine loping > at all. It happens in PARK, NEUTRAL and DRIVE WHEN THERE IS NO LOAD > (coasting down hill). The rev is between - oh - 600 and 800 rpm and cycles > every 1.5 seconds...but NO LOPE. > > Chris > > Marshall Booth wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: > >>1. Idle speed is not too low - just now adjusted a bit high (to address this >>problem)...prolly around 800. >> 2. what are other symptoms of late injection timing...don't you tend to get >> smoke? I never have smoke - ever. >> 3. Timing chain is brand new >> 4. rack positioner stop bolt - is that the same as the rack damper bolt? >> If so, already had it replaced with the new one - know exactly what you >> mean about THAT problem being worse hot than cold > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts _______________________________________ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 209K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 18 14:27:48 2005 Received: from wsip-70-184-21-248.ok.ok.cox.net ([70.184.21.248] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Ed7DQ-0001TF-B4 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:27:48 +0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:27:49 -0600 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] idle insanity! Part II (Part I solved) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:27:48 -0000 I have seen them do that when the idle is set a little too high. I would try lowering it. Christopher McCann wrote: > that doesn't sound good - what is it? > > Related news - idle has been adjusted to what appears about 850-900 on the > tach (not totally reliable). No stalling in reverse this morning and it was > chilly. So THAT is solved. > > The rhythmic revving, unfortunately, is still there. It's really weird - > you cannot see the throttle linkage more AT ALL while it is rhytmically > revving. disconnected the linkage to the IP (per Marshall's suggestion) and > that had no effect. Engine mounts are about 1 year old and are very solid. > Again, this ONLY happens in park, neutral and drive while coasting when the > engine is WARM. Doesn't happen cold and doesn;t happen hot (when I say hot, > being at 80 for 5 minutes isn't hot...I mean after 10 minutes or so of > highway driving), but once it goes away, it's gone unitl; the next time the > car is started FROM COLD. > > now that the idle is up to NO STALL mode...PERHAPS IT'S TIME TO REDO THE > RACK DAMPER BOLT, being sure not to turn it a hair further than > necessary...thoughts? > > Chris > > > > "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: maybe you have a low cylinder > > Christopher McCann wrote: > > >>Timing chain is brand new. >> >> Damper bolt is new and the new style. Also, I don't have any lope (know >> what that is...that's why I got the new bolt)...this is a rhythmic >> revving...like pushing the accelerator ever so slightly - no engine loping >> at all. It happens in PARK, NEUTRAL and DRIVE WHEN THERE IS NO LOAD >> (coasting down hill). The rev is between - oh - 600 and 800 rpm and cycles >> every 1.5 seconds...but NO LOPE. >> >> Chris >> >>Marshall Booth wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: >> >> >>>1. Idle speed is not too low - just now adjusted a bit high (to address this >>>problem)...prolly around 800. >>> 2. what are other symptoms of late injection timing...don't you tend to get >>> smoke? I never have smoke - ever. >>> 3. Timing chain is brand new >>> 4. rack positioner stop bolt - is that the same as the rack damper bolt? >>> If so, already had it replaced with the new one - know exactly what you >>> mean about THAT problem being worse hot than cold >> > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
