Didn't Donald say that his newly retired father (or father-in-law) was really 
keen on web research? Of course as a new Grandfather he's got more important 
things to do, like spoil his new grandson...

Max
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Max Dillon <meadedil...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I think a good oil article would be a great idea for an article in The Star, 
probably would need to be updated every other year.

Max
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Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think the 228.3 is a spec for dino oil. I think there is a 
differenc spec for synthetic, labelled as "extended interval."

What would make sense is if MB would list engine type or group engine 
types together, and list the suitable oil for each engine type or 
group. Or at least have a website where you can type in or choose 
engine type, then it would either give you the approved list or the 
spec sheet(s) for that engine type.

Jaime, you listening?

when oil was oil and mostly what we have to do was figure out the 
right weight, it was pretty easy. Then you could find the pretty 
simple approved list. Now we have several generations of very 
different oil specs and a very confusing and hard to decipher "MB 
internal" set of dozens of MO spec sheets relating to oil. Seems 
like a simple system to interpret the correct oil for an engine for 
service techs and owners would be a good use of webspace.

There is a reason that the Star dropped the oil spot. Now it would 
take more pages than the entire magazine just for the oil spot.


>Rotella T is found on sheet 228.3, along with Mobil Delvac 1300 Super (but no
>Mobil 1 products). Perhaps other oils on that sheet would also be 
>suitable for
>older diesel and gasoline engines?
>
>Really makes me wonder if using Mobil 1 in our older diesels is a good idea
>these days, given that the oil design specifications have changed to keep pace
>with current regulatory/technical changes to modern engines.
>
>I'll see what the lab results show, perhaps next change in my cars I'll try a
>conventional oil like the Delvac or Rotella T and compare results.
>
> Very respectfully,
>/s/
>Max Dillon
>'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
>'95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties)
>'73 Balboa 20 (High & dry until the head is back on)
>Charleston SC
>
>
>
>
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>From: Jaime Kopchinski <jaime...@gmail.com>
>To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>Sent: Mon, August 15, 2011 8:09:23 AM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] lubromoly oil (was: OM617 crankshaft bolt)
>
>Here is enough information to confuse you for several hours or days:
>
>http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html
>
>Its searchable. So, Rotella is on sheet 228.3 and 228.31. Delo is also, in
>addition to 228.5 and 228.51.
>
>What does all this mean? Well, sheet 221.0 might start to explain it:
>http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/d/d/en/Spec_221_0.pdf
>
>Sheet 210.0, 211.0, and on and on might also be useful.
>
>And in the end, I use Rotella T in just about everything built before 1991
>or so, gas or diesel.
>
>Jaime
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Allan Streib <str...@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:
>
>> 229.something. I'll make a note next time I'm in there.
>>
>> It was a diesel-rated 5W-40 I was looking at. They had several
>> different weights.
>>
>> Allan
>>
>> Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > Which MB spec??? Makes a difference! OM617 is a different spec than
>> > newish gassers.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I was at NAPA earlier and they no longer loan out tools but noticed that
>> >>they carry LuboMoly oils, which feature Mercedes-Benz spec numbers on
>> >>the label. About $35 for a 5l bottle, which is a bit better than normal
>> >>M1 pricing. Anyone used this/have an opinion about it?
>> >
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