I've had really good results using the method, as a one man solution. Hope it solves your problem. My results have most often been a full hard brake in two pumps after "filling the system backwards". The first time takes a bit longer while you putz around with finding tubing the right size and connecting it all up... after that I find it's faster than anything else I've used with much less mess. [put the cover on the master but loose while pumping or you will squirt brake fluid up and splash it in the engine compartment, trust me on that.;)) ]
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 5:37 AM, Michael Canfield <slozuk...@gmail.com>wrote: > Grant, > Brilliant idea. I have a VW Bug that runs about 12.5 seconds in the1/4 > mile but seems to take a 1/2 mile to stop after replacing every brake part > and going through gallons of brake fluid trying different methods of > bleeding. I am going to the parts store asap to get the oil pump can and I > am certain your method will finally get the job done. > > Thanks, Mike > Who wishes he had mines big enough to park his M37's in. > On Sep 4, 2011 7:27 PM, "G Mann" <g2ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Over the past 40 years I have owned, I believe, every pressure bleed > brake > > system, vacuum bleed system, and every other crackpot tool invented to > bleed > > brakes. They now all reside on my tool collection board of tools that > cost > > loads of money, don't work well [or not at all] and "I would never buy > > again. > > > > Some years ago I started using a system that DOES work well, Doesn't cost > > much, and so far hasn't failed me. It allows me to bleed both hydraulic > > clutch systems and brake systems without a helper, truly one man. Since I > > started using it, I now change out the hydraulic fluids as a regular > > scheduled item. > > > > Here is how it works for me: > > > > 1. Open the master cylinder cover, lay a clean cloth over it [stray > > dirt/bugs/etc are forbidden] > > > > 2. > > Hook a common squeeze bulb [like you siphon gas into your lawn mower > with] > > to the bleed nipple farthest from the master cylinder [play with fuel > line > > hose sizes to get it done for your particular application]... drop the > exit > > hose into a receiving container [you are going to dispose of it right?] > If > > you already have a hand vacuum pump with a receiver bottle... that can > work > > as well. > > > > 3. Squeeze pump the old fluid out of the master cylinder till it's empty, > > repeat operation 2. for each bleed nipple to evacuate each line from the > > master to wheel cylinder. > > > > 4. Wipe clean all the "gunk" left inside the Master Cylinder. [I often > use > > spray brake cleen at this point to get all the slime, then carefully dry > it > > out] > > > > 5. Using an old fashioned metal hand pump oil can [like your grandfather > > had... they are still available... cost maybe $5... and never use it for > > oil... just this] fill it with brake fluid.. attach a properly sized > length > > of fuel hose to the squirt tube and the other end to the brake bleed > nipple. > > I like to use a generous length here so I can work outside the wheel > instead > > of under the car... > > > > 6. Lay the cover loosely over the Master Cylinder.. [CAUTION.. if you do > not > > do this you will have brake fluid where you do not want it,, plus a mess > to > > clean up] > > > > 7. Start pumping brake fluid backwards from the nipple... to the master > > cylinder... start at the longest line run first... WATCH FOR FLUID AT THE > > MASTER CYLINDER... it will come nicely.. DO NOT fill the master from only > > one nipple.... > > > > 8. Go to the next longest line.. pump brake fluid same way... increase > fluid > > amount in Master cylinder... go to next longest.. etc etc... > > > > 9. Of course, close each nipple when you are done pumping at that > station. > > Top off the Master Cylinder to required level... > > > > 10. Brakes are now bled... all air has been pushed from lowest point to > > highest point.. a direction of travel that follows laws of nature and > > physics.. > > > > Total cost for tools... something less than $15. System how has clean > fluid > > from top to bottom... SHMBO has not been disturbed or irritated with > "pump > > it more" commands. [you know how well that is received... in summer heat > or > > winter cold right?] > > > > CAUTION:.. DO NOT let the pump can run out of fluid. Check the Master > > Cylinder often, [ie. don't over fill it, easy to do with this system] If > > that should happen, just suck some out with your hand squeeze bulb into > the > > receiving container. Check the pump can also. If you pump air instead of > > fluid because you let the can run empty.. you get to start over.... > > OOOooooppppssss... > > > > Works for me... HTH,,,[Hope This Helps,] > > > > Grant... > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Max Dillon <meadedil...@bellsouth.net > >wrote: > > > >> I have both pressure bleeder and mity vac, the pressure bleeder is > great. > >> However, when installing a new master cylinder, I run a line from > bleeder > >> valve on nearest caliper back to the reservoir, fill the reservoir, and > pump > >> the fluid around in a circle (master cylinder to caliper via hard brake > >> line, caliper back to reservoir via tube from bleeder valve) until no > more > >> bubbles are present, then pressure or gravity bleed to make sure all the > air > >> is out. > >> > >> Max > >> -- > >> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > >> > >> Jerry Herrman <jer...@san.rr.com> wrote: > >> > >> Now, I will start out by acknowledging that this question is premature > in > >> that I have done no research or checking before asking this question. > >> > >> Is there a "one-size-fits-all" brake bleeder? I have various cars > spannning > >> the last 50 years, and each seems to have a different master cylinder > (M/C) > >> configuration. The cars are listed below. > >> Having recently changed a M/C, and having spent considerable time > bleeding > >> the brakes by the tried and true "pump the brake pedal by myself" > method, > I > >> thought surely a pressurized bleeder would save time and aggravation. > >> Is this true? Is it easy to work? Can I have one bleeder which will do > them > >> all? > >> Confession time - I have never changed brake fluid, unless it was > necessary > >> after opening the system and replacing parts I would like now to be able > to > >> do this on a regular basis. > >> > >> Jerry > >> > >> 82 MB 240D > >> 60 Olds > >> 72 Ford F250 > >> 91 Volvo 240 > >> 05 Odyssey (wife made me buy it) > >> 07 Highlander (wife's car) > >> > >> > >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > >> database 6435 (20110904) __________ > >> > >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> _____________________________________________ > >> > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
