The problem with that statement is that one can be as careful as possible and get run into by someone who is paying little or no attention or who is but takes big chances on the road/

I suppose wagons with 3rd row seats are more dangerous for passengers in those seats but the ones that make me nervous are the little hatchbacks like Honda Civic etc. My younger son's girlfriend drives a nice little red Civic 2 door hatchback. Cute little car and mostly she is alone but I look at the back seat and think I don't want to be in there if it gets hit from behind, especially if the vehicle that hits it is a truck.

Randy

On 21/08/2012 7:55 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:
Just the typical US protect everyone from themselves attitude.  We all
should drive huge and heavy vehicles so when we are unlucky or just stupid
we can live on.  Never mind actually knowing how to drive and paying
attention to what is in front of you.

Mike
On Aug 20, 2012 7:39 PM, "Hendrik & Fay" <heni...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

So you are saying that MB (and Volvo) engineered a death trap?
Well I am pretty sure when MB decided to build the S123 and thought it
would be handy to put a couple of extra seats in the back, that they
envisaged the possibility that the car could be involved in a rear end
collision.
They may even have done a few crash tests to determine what would happen
to the rear compartment in the event of a crash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=K5mIYDod-lk&NR=1<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mIYDod-lk&NR=1>
Also the fuel tank is designed to drop down but not hit the road.
The question is what is safer, having kids sit on laps without seat belts
or sit in the third row seat?

In regards to two trucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=LrtOMLHx7cc<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrtOMLHx7cc>

Hendrik
who owns a death trap

On 20/08/12 13:04, relng...@aol.com wrote:

So then, what would happen to them in case of a rear end
collision is of no concern.

Huh?  Of course what happens to them in a rear-end collision is
of concern.  But why limit the discussion to only that one kind? What
would
happen to them in a T-bone accident?  I suspect they
would be better off in the third seat. Or a head-on?  I'm sure they would
be safer in the rear-facing
seat. What about Rollover? Rear-quarter? Front quarter? Space shuttle
pieces landing on top?  Underwater? So I guess I need to decide which
type of
collision I am going to
encounter and then choose the appropriate vehicle.

In a rear end collision in that vehicle the rear hatch is likely to be
crushed forward into the very area occupied by those 3rd seat occupants
and they
would be trapped until the crushed metal was removed.

  Or how they would escape in case of fire?
See previous answe.r

My suburban carries a large quantity of gasoline.  My wagon
carries diesel.  Therefore the danger from fire is _less_ in
the car with the rear-facing seats.

Why bring up your truck? Was this a comparison with it? Not by me.

So what fire are you referring to?  Where?  Caused by what?
Burning what?  And why is the rear hatch not opening?

Because the rear of the car will be crushed. And isn't the fuel tank aft
of
the axle under that seat?

What is the scenario where you feel a rear-facing 3rd seat is a
greater danger than a forward facing 3rd seat with regard to a fire?

Previously answered. My argument is that the 3rd row's hazards outweigh
any
convenience and it wouldn't make any difference which way it faced.

About ten years ago near here on I-405 one of those longbody Econoline
passenger vans with four rows was caught in a sandwich crash between two
semis
and caught fire. Those in the rear were incinerated, alive.

RLE

RLE



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